Atlantic Gate 2.0: Trump Mocked Vietnam Soldiers

Atlantic Gate 2.0: Trump Mocked Vietnam Soldiers

Atlantic Gate 2.0: Trump Mocked Vietnam Soldiers

A Republican friend of mine once told me that she often doesn’t like what President Trump says, but instead watches what he does. That’s good advice, especially in the midst of the controversy started by The Atlantic, which claimed Trump mocked dead World War I soldiers. Now it’s morphed into the mocking of Vietnam War soldiers.

On Friday, our Deanna introduced readers to the Atlantic controversy, questioning many of its assertions. She pointed out that weather kept Trump from going to the Aisne-Marne cemetery to honor World War I veterans. It wasn’t because he didn’t want to muss his hair, as Atlantic had reported. John Bolton also said that weather cancelled the trip.

Internet sleuths also confirmed that the cancellation was due to weather, in particular, fog. All it took was a FOIA request — something The Atlantic apparently didn’t make.

Here is a screenshot of the bad weather call. And if anyone says, “yeah, but helicopters can fly in the fog,” I have two words for them: Kobe Bryant.

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Screenshot/click to enlarge.

Later on Friday, Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin “confirmed” the Atlantic story, and alluded to two new sources of information. Left-leaning media were ecstatic: Fox News, y’all! 

Plus, not only did Trump mock soldiers who died one hundred years ago, he also ridiculed Vietnam War soldiers.

That led former Democrat presidential candidate Howard Dean (remember him?) to eloquently address President Trump with a F*ck You!

“My brother was captured in Laos in September of 1974 and executed by the North Vietnamese on December 14, 1974. Fuck you, Donald Trump.” 

The North Vietnamese did indeed capture Dean’s brother Charlie and executed him. However, Charlie wasn’t serving in the military at all — he went to Laos as a civilian.

Trump’s supposed remarks about Vietnam veterans are not some new bombshells. In 2019, ex-Trump attorney Michael Cohen — a sketchy character if ever there was one — testified that Trump told him:

“You think I’m stupid, I wasn’t going to Vietnam.”

According to another source that Jennifer Griffin cited, Trump also made this comment about military veterans:

“What’s in it for them? They don’t make any money.”

CNN added to the dog pile by pointing out the story about Trump’s draft avoidance due to bone spurs and college deferments. Yes, they dragged out that old saw about bone spurs.

But if you’re old enough to remember the Vietnam War era, you’ll remember how few young men volunteered to go. Many of them protested, burned draft cards, and even fled to Canada to avoid the draft. They did anything they could to avoid serving in Vietnam, like Bill Clinton, who did his own dodge-and-weave to avoid military service. If they were in college, their professors encouraged their opposition — doesn’t that sound familiar?

So let’s imagine placing today’s reporters — especially the Millennials — into a Wayback Machine and transporting them into 1960’s America. The same people who are caterwauling about Trump’s Vietnam comments would be protesting against that war. Perhaps they would even be insulting Vietnam soldiers, too.

Let’s also look at Democrat war hero, John Kerry, who in 1971 went before Congress to testify against the Vietnam War as part of the Winter Soldier Investigation. Kerry also claimed that his fellow soldiers committed rampant atrocities, which drew the ire of many Vietnam vets when he ran for president in 2004.

Not only that, but in 2006 that same John Kerry mocked soldiers who volunteered for duty in Iraq as being stupid:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

Yet The Atlantic and other media outlets are eager to publish the out-of-context allegations of anonymous sources. Their goal is to keep Trump from being re-elected, not to seek out truth, like honest reporters should.

But if the media can make allegations about Trump, I can make allegations about them. Who put them up to this? Did someone in the Biden campaign encourage the Atlantic to publish this? Or perhaps a pro-Biden vet group — it’s amazing how quickly their campaign ad emerged after the story broke.

Let’s also look at Laurene Powell Jobs, widow of Apple founder Steve Jobs. She’s the majority-owner of The Atlantic. She’s also in frequent contact with editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg. Plus, she’s donated over $1 million dollars to Biden and other Democrats since 2019. Did Jobs have a part in releasing this article?

The things that make you go hmmmm.

But as my friend said: I don’t like what Trump says. But I like what he’s done. For the military, Trump has increased readiness funding, invested in war fighting systems, updated nuclear forces, and of course, introduced the Space Force. That’s of much greater importance than anonymous out-of-context comments that President Trump may or may not have uttered.

 

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Kim is a pint-sized patriot who packs some big contradictions. She is a Baby Boomer who never became a hippie, an active Republican who first registered as a Democrat (okay, it was to help a sorority sister's father in his run for sheriff), and a devout Lutheran who practices yoga. Growing up in small-town Indiana, now living in the Kansas City metro, Kim is a conservative Midwestern gal whose heart is also in the Seattle area, where her eldest daughter, son-in-law, and grandson live. Kim is a working speech pathologist who left school system employment behind to subcontract to an agency, and has never looked back. She describes her conservatism as falling in the mold of Russell Kirk's Ten Conservative Principles. Don't know what they are? Google them!

10 Comments
  • Cameron says:

    I’m old enough to have seen the following with regards to being a Vietnam Vet:

    Republican:
    Did they serve?
    If No: “Then they were chickenshit yellow elephants who let poor kids go in their place.”
    If Yes
    Infantry: “They were brainwashed baby killers who want black people to die!’
    POG: “They were chickenshits that weren’t man enough to pick up a gun!’

    Democrat
    Did they serve?
    If No: “It was an immoral war and they didn’t want to die for rich people! How *DARE* you question their courage, H8R?!”
    If yes, regardless of the MOS: “OHMYGOD! THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE! And none of you Rethuglicans were brave like him!”

    So you will have to excuse my total lack of interest in the apolexy that the Atlantic and their readers are having right now.

  • To add information to the post: 1) Jennifer Griffen is married to an NPR executive; 2) with whom she co-authored a book whitewashing the Palestinian terror campaign against Israel.

    Whether she is a full up Jew hater*, there is no definite evidence, but Democrat Party ideology is certainly a strong indicator.

    *No, Goldberg is not a Jew any more than he is a Catholic. Like his idol Karl Marx, he is of Hebrew DESCENT – and virulently hates any follower of the Judaic religion or tradition. We HAVE to stop identifying anyone that simply has Hebrew ancestors as a “Jew” – it permits them to use a false shield for their actions.

  • Frank J. Derfler says:

    Everyone should be aware that “The Atlantic” is (since last November) “controlled: by Laurene Jobs — the widow of Steve Jobs. She represents the hi Tech Intellectual Elite. The Atlantic article, together with a “Poll” and a few other leaked stories is a planned and coordinated “Dirty Trick” aimed at influencing the votes of our US Military overseas. US Military overseas JUST started absentee voting and this “old” story comes out. Get it now.? A complete pre-planned and well coordinated attack on our military voting process. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/11/20/laurene-jobs-the-atlantic-072210

  • Lurking Observer says:

    It’s quite simple, really:

    Given the terrible things that Donald Trump is reported to have said, have someone go on the record, and state that they PERSONALLY heard him say these things. Give us the particulars: When and where.

    It could be Colonel Vindman. It could be Eric Ciaramella. It could be Mike Pence.

    But surely SOMEONE out there is courageous enough to say, “Yeah, this lying so-and-so who isn’t fit to be President said this, and I’ll go on the record and show you when and where.”

    If not, then you have to wonder whether any of it ever took place at all.

  • Gridlock says:

    The First World War was a pointless waste of life. It should never have been fought, and millions died for nothing. It is not disrespecting the dead to point out this simple fact. Everybody knows this. To now, suddenly, pretend that the First World War was necessary and just, because Donald Trump said otherwise, is just stupid. Do the Democrats really want to hang their hat on the “The First World War was a great idea” peg?

    Of the “The Vietnam War was a great idea” peg?

    • Kim Hirsch says:

      “The First World War was a pointless waste of life. It should never have been fought, and millions died for nothing.”

      I absolutely agree with that statement. I’ve visited the National World War I Museum in Kansas City multiple times, and every time I shake my head at how pointless that war was. It was a giant pissing match and domino set-up played out across the world. If it weren’t for WWI, we could’ve avoided the rise of Nazism, the carve-ups in the Middle East, perhaps the victory of Bolshevism (I’m not sure; Russia was simmering even before WWI, and Nicholas II was a weak leader). It was a complex war which changed the world forever, and not all for the good.

      “Do the Democrats really want to hang their hat on the “The First World War was a great idea” peg?”

      Do the Democrats even know anything about WWI?

    • Taylor says:

      Stopping German aggression is never a pointless thing to do. Had Germany won World War I the end result would have been a German European Empire that would have looked pretty much as Hitler’s German Empire looked in 1941.

  • David Longfellow says:

    You should always start by assuming the left is lying to you. Especially the media.

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