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NBC News published a ‘thought experiment’ from bioethics scholar Travis Rieder earlier today that is vile and inhumane. The title of his piece of dreck is:
Science proves kids are bad for Earth. Morality suggests we stop having them.
We need to stop pretending kids don’t have environmental and ethical consequences.
Yes folks, that is an actual headline. His complete and utter disregard of the joys of children and his disdain for the gifts they are gets even worse when you read the article.
Then he spouts this crap:
Having a child imposes high emissions on the world, while the parents get the benefit. So like with any high-cost luxury, we should limit our indulgence.
INDULGENCE??!!! ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME??!! Yes, I’m yelling. Deal with it.
Folks, having or adopting a child is NOT an indulgence!! Children are GIFTS. They are gifts who make us better. A child’s laughter and hug should and MUST mean more than keeping track of some bullshit carbon footprint ledger!
This is a very serious unfathomable opinion. Probably written by someone who does not have a beautiful child that brings joy into their life everyday.
— SeymonNoel (@SeymonNoel) November 15, 2017
Agreed. Given that Travis is a parent himself, how in the ever loving hell could he write something like this that completely negates his own child??!!
Unfortunately good ole Travis isn’t the only one who is advocating that we abandon our own humanity and morals in the interest of saving DA EARTH! Nope, there are far too many others out there who really think that everyone on this planet needs to stop having ANY babies because EARTH.
— Jason (@CounterMoonbat) November 15, 2017
Eric Pianka, an ecologist at the University of Texas advocated for this back in 2006.
Professor Pianka said the Earth as we know it will not survive without drastic measures. Then, and without presenting any data to justify this number, he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number.
He then showed solutions for reducing the world’s population in the form of a slide depicting the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse. War and famine would not do, he explained. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved.
Yeah, he did and does advocate that. Well dude, here’s a question. Who gets to choose who will be the lucky 10% who get to live?
Meanwhile Travis shows a side of inhumanity that should never ever be applauded.
This piece argues that having a child is morally equivalent to releasing a murderer from prison. https://t.co/ln8orQLM5U pic.twitter.com/qhq6ka7psJ
— Jason (@CounterMoonbat) November 15, 2017
Travis, while you were conducting your ‘thought experiment’ and yes, shaming those of us who have or want children, did you ever think about what we’d ALL miss out on by not having children?
The simple joys of a baby’s laughter
Cuteness overload
Holding Mom and Dad’s hands
Sweet treasured moments
Travis, since you are oh so darned interested in saving Planet Earth, you might want to stop and think about one teeny tiny little detail that you left out of your inhumane screed. You see this little guy?
That cute face might be the one to grow up and come up with a solution that betters our planet without involving the inhumanity of population control!
Travis? Take your immoral and inhumane climate change population control zealotry and shove it.
Scott says: Thanks for the post Nina, It’s good to k now what these idiots are up to… Though to be honest, I’m going to agree with them both, just a little bit.. first off, Travis DEFINITELY shouldn’t have kids, in fact, the ones he has should be taken away from him, because he’s obviously a disturbed individual who is most likely a threat to his own children, at least he is if he really believes the crap hes spouting..
As for Eric, i think we should give his disease theory a chance, at least as a test case… to test his theory, lets get him, and any others who advocate the same together, and kill them off via the disease route (i’d suggest hemorrhagic fever, or something equally painful), and see if that has positive impact on the climate… It should drop CO2 levels dramatically, just by virtue of shutting their overactive pieholes…
Nina says: Thank you Scott.
And yes, the fact that either of them and far too many others think that this is even remotely a viable solution to saving the earth is definitely repugnant.
GWB says: The interesting part of that disease idea is that most of the people affected would be the people who vote like this – that is, urban centers. A goodly chunk of the rest of the population has decent immune systems (comes from eating dirt, instead of paste).
(BTW, when I saw Outbreak, I really wanted to go back and watch it in the theater again – only this time with a spray bottle. And then ‘sneeze’ and squirt the spray bottle over the rows in front of me.)
Scott says: GWB, you are a sick sick individual…. I LOVE IT!!! hehe
CaptNed says: It’s not really about children. It’s about power and control over the lowly masses. The left has gotten very good at influencing the populace with misinformation and outright lies in their bid to rule the world. This is just more of the same.
Scott says: Wait,what???? The left lies in order to exert control, and gain power????? Say it isn’t so!!!
Tecumsehtea says: Wow. Just wow. You cannot make up this insane stuff from the left. There is something seriously wrong with these people. So, we’re supposed to ELIMINATE 90% of our population? Really? And they call Trump Hitler. Wow.
Steve S. says: When someone tells me that there are too many people in the world, I ask them if they are one of the excess:
If they are, what are they going to do about it?
If they are not, how do they know?
Nina says: I’d bet that those you talk with can’t answer either of those questions with any semblance of logic, reason, or humanity.
Steve S says: Can’t say, because none would ever say if they are, or are not, one of the excess. I suppose it’s too easy to see where I’m headed with it, because the conversation never gets past the ‘excess’ question.
wyldkat says: If he really thinks that having children creates a burden on the earth, then I suggest that he, and any others of his ilk, immediately go out and have himself castrated. That way he will not “accidentally” add to the population.
Kim Quade says: The only “high emissions” come from this guy’s piehole. And probably the other one too, but I’m too much of a lady to mention it here. . .
TBlakely says: A few years ago a couple of scientists wrote an article stating that in order for humanity and Gia to survive the human race needed mandatory genetic engineering. The three primary changes that were needed was to make humanity smaller to lessen their carbon footprint, make everyone brown since being white is evil and make humanity more ‘docile’ so they wouldn’t question their all knowing leaders.
Flying Dutchman says: “The State in all, all within the State, nothing outside the State.”
People have tried various iterations of this for thousands of years, and it always goes foom. This crap is getting tiresome….
ArtD0dger says: Nice piece Nina, I am totally with you.
I always shudder that one of these creeps will get enough power to trigger his final solution. John Holdren became Obama’s science czar, after all.
RiPoTuCo says: Regardless of media format, on a long enough timeline all fiction writing becomes reality. This stinks like something that I’ve seen or read before. Maybe that Clive Owen picture “Children of Men” crossbred with Tom Clancy’s novel “Rainbow Six”. I don’t think some people realize that death cults are a bad thing. Have they heard of Jonestown?
Harcourt Fenton mudd says: So people who bay against the loss of 3” fish in California , and every shark, stray plant and bumble bee feel fine fine about trimming the kid population?
And who will pay the taxes to pay for the pensions of government employees and tensured professors when the demographics implode?
And did i miss something? How many people in his family is this guy willing to sacrifice for the good of the planet?
Who decides who has kids and how many? Oh I see…
RiPoTuCo says: A distopic future is more likely to come from massive depopulation than it is to come from a climate catastrophe. The aging populace that remains of a nearly childless society becomes too feeble to do the labor required to keep a civilization running. Run this madness out to it’s logical conclusion and this selfish elderly group will be borderline destitute near the end of their lives. Not necessarily financially, but poor in human capital. Then they will be forced to import youth (from societies that are willing to propagate the species) so they can continue with their high standard of living. Just ask Japan. So short of forcible worldwide mandatory sterilization, what would be accomplished by this besides displacing one population and replacing it with a more fertile one.
Stacy0311 says: So what I’m hearing from this guy is we should start euthanizing liberals/progressives/climate change advocates in order to save the planet.
Let’s go selective Logan’s Run!!!!
GWB says: he asserted that the only feasible solution to saving the Earth is to reduce the population to 10 percent of the present number
You go first, Skippy.
Who gets to choose who will be the lucky 10% who get to live?
Ooooh! I volunteer! Just send the other 90% to try and exterminate me in small lots, and I and my 2d Amendment freedom will take care of the problem.
The irony is, if hypocrisy had fatal consequences, this problem would resolve itself in short order. And we wouldn’t have to hear about AGW or Malthus ever again.
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