Saudi Arabia Sentences Five for Khashoggi

Saudi Arabia Sentences Five for Khashoggi

Saudi Arabia Sentences Five for Khashoggi

More than a year after Jamal Khashoggi was murdered and dismembered at the Saudi Arabia consulate in Turkey, the Kingdom has sentenced five people to die for the crime.

Farsnews.com website, licensed under a CC Attribution 4.0 International License

Note that the well-connected former royal court advisor Saud Al Qahtani and former deputy intelligence chief Ahmed Al Assiri are not among those charged and have been released. This tells me that the sentencing for Khashoggi’s gruesome death was nothing more than a circus meant to show the world just how “just” and “honorable” the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia is.

In fact, Saudi Arabia is neither.

Saudi Arabia is not our friend.

Saudi Arabia is a shit ally that takes advantage of our friendship and generosity.

Saudi Arabia sends its terrorists to the United States, including the recent Saudi military scumbag who shot up the Pensacola Naval Air Station earlier this month and the majority of the al-Qa`ida scum who conducted the 9/11 attacks that killed thousands.

Saudi Arabia has sent more terrorists to the United States to launch attacks than any other nation.

The country of origin for the largest number of foreign-born terrorists is Saudi Arabia, which accounts for 18 out of the 192 foreign-born terrorists from 1975 through 2017… Saudis were also the deadliest; they murdered 2,351.8 people and injured 11,717.4, entirely because 15 out of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. Each terrorist from Saudi Arabia has murdered about 131 people in attacks on U.S. soil.

And no amount of money the Kingdom offers us, or how “devastated” the king is by the incident, will change the fact that Saudi Arabia is a vicious, backwards country that is not and should not be a friend of ours.

The Khashoggi verdict is nothing but superfluous lip service to the concept of justice, according to Lynn Maalouf, Amnesty International’s Middle East Research Director.

The trial, which sentenced five people to die for the crime, was closed to the public, the details of the “investigation” were never made available to the public, and international monitors did not have access to the trial. Moreover, Khashoggi’s family still has no insight into the location of his remains.

“Saudi Arabia’s courts routinely deny defendants access to lawyers and condemn people to death following grossly unfair trials. Given the lack of transparency from the Saudi authorities, and in the absence of an independent judiciary, only an international, independent and impartial investigation can serve justice for Jamal Khashoggi.”

The Khashoggi murder – regardless of what you think of the man himself (and there are a lot of opinions on him floating around out there) – is only one indication of the human rights violations in which Saudi Arabia is engaged. They only this year gave women the right to drive, fer petessake! Last year Saudi Arabia also engaged in arbitrary arrests, trials, and convictions of peaceful dissidents and activists.

In other words, Saudi Arabia sucks.

Meanwhile, the United States is providing Saudi Arabia support in its war in Yemen’s civil conflict. We are also sending troops over there to help secure Saudi Arabia’s oil infrastructure.

I realize the Huthis are Iran-supported and funded, and Iran is using them and other proxies in the region to support its regional objectives. I realize Iran launching attacks on the Saudi energy assets is its way of ensuring that prices increase so it gets the most it possibly can from its few remaining customers, given the crippling sanctions that are wreaking havoc with its economy.

But Saudi Arabia doesn’t need our support, and despite this, the President vetoed attempts to end US aid to Saudi Arabia this year.

To be sure, my criticism isn’t only about the Khashoggi verdict, although this particular case is the avatar for much that is wrong with Saudi Arabia vis-a-vis civil rights. My criticism is about America’s support for this crappy ally that takes advantage of our generosity while breeding terrorists who enjoy attacking our country, continuously oppressing women and those who disagree with the regime, and using our aid (which it hardly needs, since it holds about 16 percent of the world’s petroleum reserves and ranks as the largest exporter of petroleum, and whose economy will still grow, albeit nominally, after Iran attacked ARAMCO assets this year) to fight its regional wars. To say nothing of US weapons systems ending up in the wrong hands – hands belonging to al-Qa`ida and Iran – after they were sold to the Saudis.

There is no doubt that Iran is our enemy – one that funds and directs acts of terrorism all over the world, including against US interests. But being an enemy of Iran does not magically transform the fundamentalist Saudi fucks into our friends or allies. They’re nothing more than parasites living off US largess, and it’s high time we cut them loose. And we certainly shouldn’t help them fight their wars!

Suspending military training for Saudi students is a pretty good start, but it’s not nearly enough.

Featured photo: President Donald Trump speaks with Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Deputy Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, on March 14, 2017, in the Oval Office; As a work of the U.S. federal government, it is in the public domain.

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Marta Hernandez is an immigrant, writer, editor, science fiction fan (especially military sci-fi), and a lover of freedom, her children, her husband and her pets. She loves to shoot, and range time is sacred, as is her hiking obsession, especially if we’re talking the European Alps. She is an avid caffeine and TWD addict, and wants to own otters, sloths, wallabies, koalas, and wombats when she grows up.

4 Comments
  • GWB says:

    which accounts for 18 out of the 192 foreign-born terrorists from 1975 through 2017… Saudis were also the deadliest; they murdered 2,351.8 people and injured 11,717.4
    This kind of analysis is exactly why I hate statistics. It’s inherently unrepresentative of the whole because of a single incident that was out of proportion to all other incidents.

    according to Lynn Maalouf, Amnesty International’s Middle East Research Director
    Wait, we’re quoting AI as reliable authorities now? They have ante in this game. They are right sometimes, but they are also very wrong a lot of the time.

    The trial … was closed to the public
    Yep, all those things are actually a problem for us, using Western Civ as our basis. Not so much for a huge chunk of the world. (I am not saying “all cultures are equal” – but these same folks are the ones who lecture us with that exact line, and I get chapped when I see their double standard.)

    only an international, independent and impartial investigation can serve justice for Jamal Khashoggi
    Impartial, huh? Note the word “for”? Yeah, they’ve already got their minds made up as to who was in the wrong. So, I’m not going to put any trust in that “impartial” investigation.

    They only this year gave women the right to drive, fer petessake!
    So, it’s done now. Or do you think we should criticize a nation for its past sins that are no longer true? You know, like slavery?

    My criticism is about America’s support for this crappy ally that takes advantage of our generosity while breeding terrorists who enjoy attacking our country
    Here’s the question, though: ARE they breeding new terrorists, really? Didn’t the new King cut off the money flow to the overseas Wahhabi radical imams? And start cracking down on the ones at home? If so (and that was the analysis of several folks, recently) shouldn’t he get credit for that?

    and using our aid (which it hardly needs
    Well, since I don’t think we should ever give foreign aid, except in extreme circumstances and for short periods, I will give you a fist pump for this one.

    Now, having said ALL that*…
    I agree. I think Saudi Arabia is a lousy ally. There were two main reasons we kept them as such: oil and they were the opponents of ALL the nasty folks in the ME (with the exception of their own). Now, I think it’s just a matter of oil and momentum from the old post-WW2 arrangements (as Glenn Reynolds likes to talk about).

    But, focusing on SA as the big bad meany on the block lets a lot of other people off the hook. There’s Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, Qatar, etc. We need to cut them ALL off until they provide proof of their alignment to our country’s interests (not just the biggest sand pit). This is part of the Foggy Bottom Deep State mentality. They feel the need for continuity more than actual sharp, narrow focus on OUR interests. We instead need to break continuity and regularly re-examine our commitments.

    (* Because I respect your arguments, I think I need to fire back to help you improve them. Iron sharpens iron, after all. And, honestly, I like playing Devil’s Advocate. 😉 )

    • GWB says:

      BTW, I do think part of that re-examination should include their new detente with Israel, which advocates in their favor.

    • Marta Hernandez says:

      This kind of analysis is exactly why I hate statistics. It’s inherently unrepresentative of the whole because of a single incident that was out of proportion to all other incidents.

      It would if the actual quote didn’t specifically state that the analysis is skewed by 9/11: entirely because 15 out of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia

      Wait, we’re quoting AI as reliable authorities now? They have ante in this game. They are right sometimes, but they are also very wrong a lot of the time.

      Wait, I’m only supposed to access and quote “conservative” sources? No.

      Here’s Trump State Department’s Human Rights report on Saudi Arabia from last year.

      So, it’s done now. Or do you think we should criticize a nation for its past sins that are no longer true? You know, like slavery?

      Really? This is you playing “Devil’s Advocate”? By comparing what I’ve said, completely falsely, to the social justice proglodytes’ intent to condemn our nation on the basis of an institution that hasn’t existed for more than 100 years? The women driving issue is an example and the fact that they just this year were allowed to drive, only strengthens my point, and it’s one datapoint in a sea of them. Come on!

      unlawful killings; executions for nonviolent offenses; forced renditions; forced disappearances; and torture of prisoners and detainees by government agents. There were also reports of arbitrary arrest and detention; political prisoners; arbitrary interference with privacy; criminalization of libel, censorship, and site blocking;restrictions on freedoms of peaceful assembly, association, and movement; severe restrictions of religious freedom; citizens’ lack of ability and legal means to choose their government through free and fair elections;trafficking in persons; violence and official discrimination against women, although new women’s rights initiatives were implemented;

      Here’s the question, though: ARE they breeding new terrorists, really? Didn’t the new King cut off the money flow to the overseas Wahhabi radical imams? And start cracking down on the ones at home? If so (and that was the analysis of several folks, recently) shouldn’t he get credit for that?

      I have not seen any indication that they’re cracking down on their own extremists. They’re too busy waging war on the Shia militant groups supported by Iran. Saudi Arabia has claimed it cut down on extremism, except their definition of “extremism” is really about silencing dissident voices, not unlike its enemy Iran.

      But, focusing on SA as the big bad meany on the block lets a lot of other people off the hook. There’s Pakistan, Iraq, Egypt, Qatar, etc. We need to cut them ALL off until they provide proof of their alignment to our country’s interests (not just the biggest sand pit). This is part of the Foggy Bottom Deep State mentality.

      Why is it that so many people immediately revert to the “deep state” supporter insult as soon as they disagree with something. I focused on Saudi Arabia here because that’s what the post is about. If I wanted to do a post on Qatar and its support of terrorism, I would have done so. It’s called focusing on a particular topic, so I’m not all over the place, confusing people. And also, that would make the post incredibly long, and no one would read it. Maybe I WILL do a post in the future on why we’re sending money and weapons to extremists worldwide, but that wasn’t the topic of this particular one.

  • GWB says:

    Wait, I’m only supposed to access and quote “conservative” sources? No.
    No, but AI isn’t exactly unbiased.

    the fact that they just this year were allowed to drive
    Actually shows motion toward a better place. The fact they used to restrict them is not a fair condemnation of them today. Pick a better example by showing something that hasn’t changed. There’s plenty to choose from there. Or, yes, 1 year or 100, you’re still arguing the same way the proglodytes do.
    (See, that next paragraph would have been a much better example of all the problems.)

    I have not seen any indication that they’re cracking down on their own extremists.
    I will have to try and find the analysis that said that. But it was one of the “Are they really doing that? Will things maybe really change?” bits they were seeing.

    except their definition of “extremism” is really about silencing dissident voices
    Well, that is part of why the king was cracking down on the Wahhabi fundamentalists – they were a threat to what he wanted to do with SA. He wanted to modernize (at least a little) and their power was a threat to that (and therefore, to him). That’s what the analysis said, anyway.

    “deep state” supporter insult
    I didn’t resort to any insult toward you. The biggest problems with Foggy Bottom are an overweening progressive mentality, a tendency to represent the foreign country instead of the US, and a problem with desiring continuity in the post-World-War political and diplomatic arrangements over our country’s interests. It’s WHY our diplomacy toward SA (and plenty of other places) has not changed with the circumstances. And yes, it’s a Deep State issue – the Foreign Service is full of lifelong careerists who went to the “right” schools and hold the “right” ideas and write the “right” papers and know the “right” people. And, as evidenced by what we saw in events surrounding the “Ukraine call” they think they run our foreign policy. (And, practically speaking, they do.)

    I focused on Saudi Arabia here because that’s what the post is about.
    I get you. I was making the point that the problem is NOT SA, though. It’s an entire region (and others) with the exact same problems. I think you wrote in such a way as to make SA sound unique in its abusive relationship with us. (As an aside, any idea whether we still do military support of Algeria? Their gov’t has shifted once or twice since I went to a military school with “Tiger”, an Algerian fighter pilot.)

    Again, I think you’re right over all. But, I don’t think you put the strongest arguments you had forward.

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