Grocery Stores May Need to Ban Customers Says CNN

Grocery Stores May Need to Ban Customers Says CNN

Grocery Stores May Need to Ban Customers Says CNN

Wait, what? Haven’t our local governments told us schlubs that grocery stores are “essential” in the pandemic? And that they could remain open?

Well, about that. Now CNN has found “experts” who are advising that the stores need to keep customers out. Because of COVID, of course.

You cannot make this stuff up.

It’s too dangerous for store workers because of “careless customers,” says Marc Perrone, president of the United Food and Commercial Workers Union. According to his union members, 85% of you customers are not practicing social distancing in stores. How does he know? Does he have union toadies tallying up bad shoppers who break the rules of non-engagement?

By the way, this union president is one of the “experts” CNN cites. But for backup, they quote John Logan, a professor of Labor and Employment Studies at San Francisco State University. A professor of labor at a university in San Fran must be a legit expert, right?

Logan also gives a big thumbs-up to actually closing grocery stores.

“Anything that reduces the need for interaction with the public and allows for greater physical distancing will ultimately better protect grocery workers. Shuttering stores and repurposing them for pickup and delivery only would be a positive step.”

Dear reader, have you used pickup or grocery delivery during these stay-at-home times? My husband and I did, and the result was a total clusterf*ck. At first we could not reserve a time for pickup, which was our preference. Then, when we did use the delivery service, we had to wait two days for a delivery that arrived hours late and was missing items. Nope, not doing that again.

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But “experts” have been warning us about grocery stores and their inherent dangers ever since the word “coronavirus” entered the national lexicon. They sounded the alarm about the dangers that lurk between the aisles.

For example, they showed us scare videos like this one, which shows how far a cough can spread.

They also advised us how to disinfect our polluted groceries when we come home from the store. One family physician even recorded a 13-minute tutorial to show us how to use “surgical techniques” in our kitchens.

“Imagine that the groceries that you have are covered with some glitter, and your goal at the end of this is to not have any glitter in your house, on your hands, or especially, on your face.”

Oh, please. Make it stop!

But you know the real reason for all these scare tactics, don’t you? It goes beyond the standard “if it bleeds, it leads” credo that journalists use.

Journos want to frighten us because secretly, deep down they want the economy to fail, and people to suffer. Oh, they may deny it and take great umbrage if someone were to suggest it. Brian Stelter, CNN’s “hall monitor” as Tucker Carlson calls him, would probably post a long-winded Twitter thread on how CNN reporters are better people than us rubes.

After all, if the economy goes South, that means Donald Trump may go down in electoral flames. And that’s what they really want.

So when a large-scale study came out last Friday which purported that COVID-19 cases are vastly underreported, leading the actual death rate to be much lower than “experts” previously thought, most of us felt hopeful. But the next day media detractors emerged, citing other “experts” who questioned the results.

Plus, over at the New York Times, writer Don McNeil Jr. cites “nearly two dozen experts” who tell us that “there will be no quick return to our previous lives.” People may be “trapped inside for months.”

Oh, and. . . Trump!

“Yet President Trump this week proposed guidelines for reopening the economy and suggested that a swath of the United States would soon resume something resembling normalcy. For weeks now, the administration’s view of the crisis and our future has been rosier than that of its own medical advisers, and of scientists generally.”

I’m tired of the “experts.” I’m also fed up with journalists who gloat with the prospect of keeping people from grocery stores, churches, ball games, and concerts. Journalists who want to frighten us into thinking that “it’s the end of the world as we know it.”

Sing along, with defiance: “And I feel fine!” Let’s ignore the media naysayers and applaud the president working to open the country.


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  • Joe in PNG says:

    At least the price of tar is going down- just saying.

  • GWB says:

    Dear reader, have you used pickup or grocery delivery during these stay-at-home times?

    At first we could not reserve a time for pickup
    Friend of mine can’t use it because the available times are in the middle of the night. Family members of hers do use it – in the middle of the night.

    Anything that reduces the need for interaction with the public and allows for greater physical distancing will ultimately better protect grocery workers.
    Note that very first word. ANYTHING. This is why I keep hammering on the bureaucratic “experts” having a Zero Risk mentality! Of course, the thing that would most reduce interaction with the public would be for the state to simply pick up the produce from the fields and have it delivered in the appropriate ration sizes directly to your door (after all, you already told them everything they need to know when you filled out your census paperwork, right?). Better yet, they could put one of those boxes inside your door, with a sliding door on the outside, so they can just leave your gruel and bread in there for each meal.
    (Anyone not recognizing that last bit needs to watch about any movie showing people in prison during the ages before the modern era. Ben Hur (1959) is a good one – the scene where they go looking for Judah’s mother and sister in the lower levels of the prison. Food goes into the hole in the door, and sometimes it’s even in dishes of some kind.)

    It goes beyond the standard “if it bleeds, it leads” credo that journalists use.
    Though, that does form a huge part of it. And for some journalists that’s as far as it goes.

    “nearly two dozen experts”
    Who just happen to also be totalitarians. Interesting, that.

    of scientists generally
    And, there, again, we see the “scientists” applied as if it’s some group of people entirely smarter than me and you. If they said “epidemiologists” it might hold more sway (though, again, Zero Risk issues). If they said “virologists” it might hold some weight. But, no, it’s “scientists” – much like Global Warming Cooling Climate Change is a “scientific consensus”, mostly of “scientists” in other fields.

    Sing along, with defiance
    Nay. DANCE! Even grab a partner! Dance your defiance while you sing.
    Then tell the “experts” to go F themselves, and get on with what you actually know.

    • SDN says:

      Here in DFW, we have used both, for Wal-Mart, Sam’s, and Kroger, both for pickup at the store and delivery scheduled via Instacart. Generally, the orders are delivered in a timely fashion, but we occasionally have issues with items not being in stock for delivery as opposed to when we shop.

  • Rhapsody The Blue says:

    Try a different store? We use Pavillions (Vons, basically) here in SoCal. The delivery slots were sparse, but they actually delivered a bit early, texting us in advance. The send a receipt beforehand showing if anything was out of stock.

  • Ampleforth says:

    Anything that reduces the need for interaction.

    Zero Risk mentality.

    I wonder if journalists would be so supportive of this type of risk management if a governor or President Trump decided that news gathering and reporting was unnecessary interaction and shut them down.

    What’s to keep them from doing it? Their right to gather, write, and publish the news is protected by the same Amendment that guarantees the right to peaceably assemble and to practice your religion. Those have been restricted and even done away with by executive fiat.

    It would be interesting to peer into an alternate universe that featured a conservative leaning media to see how this nation’s petty tyrants would treat the press. It would be deemed non-essential and shuttered. It would be as arbitrary as closing grocery stores.

    I’d like to see CNN come up with a plan to feed 330 million people for several months. It can’t be done. People would starve and die. I guess they’d be fine with that as long as the right people were dying.

  • Da Bear says:

    Wow..Trump is living free in these idiots heads, 24/7.

    So, while some humans in a state called Michigan, ruled by an actual living, breathing tyrant, ARE NOT ALLOWED TO PLANT CROPS TO FEED THEMSELVES, we have certifiable idiots from the same Nazi regime saying we cannot have unfettered access to food.

    Beg or borrow ammo and guns from friends and family, practice how to use these instruments of freedom, and contemplate the circumstances that would demand their use.

    “But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

  • Chancellor says:

    That CNN is stupid is a given. OTOH, I can understand the frustration of grocery store employees since there’s a lot of clueless people wandering around who have no concept whatsoever of social distancing. It doesn’t take union spies to notice that; just a person who’s not stoned and has their eyes open. But to take that and correlate it to shutting down grocery stores…well, yes, This Is CNN.

    Per grocery pickup, if your experience was a Charlie-Foxtrot, that’s a pretty poorly managed store. I have two elderly relatives who use pickup all the time – one from WalMart, the other from a local chain – and they’ve had no problems.

    • GWB says:

      I’m curious: How long have your friends used the pickup service? If they started before the current stupidity, then they’re probably at the front of the line.

      I’m not so sure the problems are Charlie-Foxtrots so much as an unprecedented* level of demand. After all, you can have 30 people standing in checkout lines in normal times, and it’s not a big problem, but if those same 30 people want delivery at the same time it’s now an issue of the number of people gathering their groceries, AND the number of people delivering those groceries. Remember that just the gathering part was done by 30 different people in the in-store model.

      (BTW, my friend and her family that I mentioned in my comment? WalMart. As a matter of fact, an almost-nothing-but-Walmart town. And they’re still having to take delivery at 1am.)

      • GWB says:

        * Meant to say I used ‘unprecedented’ for something literally unprecedented. Not just as a superlative. And ‘literally’, too.

      • Chancellor says:

        One’s been doing it for a couple years, the other started right at the beginning of the shutdowns. Our local WalMart has tripled their pick-up spots in the parking lot. The local chain used to have drive-up, but they’ve also put in a group of six spots where the groceries get walked out to.

        We might have really good service – grocery stores around here are very competitive, and margins pretty thin. All three of our local chains have really held their own against WalMart and Aldi.

  • Everyone who is afraid needs to hide under their bed and never come out. The rest of us could then get on with our lives.
    The Bible says that the fearful and the unbelieving will get tossed in to the lake of fire which was prepared for the devil and his rebellious angels. I used to question the justice of that but now I do not. The fearful are clearly evil and wicked and tools of the devil. The fearful belong where murderers and liars go.

    Revelation 21
    1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
    2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.
    6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.
    7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
    8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

  • Ben Wilson says:

    Uh. . .that was an excellent demonstration of the way that the virus can spread from sneezing.

    Could somebody show me the model that shows what happens when someone sneezes in a subway — or a city bus?

    Or perhaps in an elevator??

    Inquiring minds want to know!!

    • Kim Hirsch says:

      Except that the particles would be a lot more thinned-out and dispersed by the time they reach the other aisle. It also doesn’t account for the height of grocery store aisles —- which are what here in the US, about six feet high? The video also doesn’t account for people moving, either.

      Bottom line: You need a concentration of those particles to enter your mucous membranes to possibly make you sick.

      As for subways —- now those are true Petri dishes for the virus. Yet NYC didn’t close them. Go figure.

      • GWB says:

        More like 8 feet high in largish grocery stores. 5′ to 6′ in 7-11 and bodegas.

        Not only did NYC not close their subways, they lessened the number of trains running. Which actually served to concentrate the riders more densely that before the epidemic.

        (Oh, a single virus could make you sick. But it’s going to have a much higher likelihood of getting killed before it can create enough of itself to generate a crowd. If it comes with a mob already, then your chance of sickness is higher.)

  • mathee says:

    Last I checked the number of grocery worker infected was lower than the per thousand number of the US population in general. Maybe working with the public that long has improved their immune systems

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