Do Women Destroy Nations/Civilizations? (Video)

Do Women Destroy Nations/Civilizations? (Video)

Do Women Destroy Nations/Civilizations? (Video)

The Premise

What a controversial subject for a women’s blogging team to take on, right? I am begging you to watch this video all the way through before you read what I write or post a comment on any of the Victory Girls’ venues.


There cannot be a sentient being on Planet Earth who hasn’t listened to Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer or Mika Brzezinski and thought “How did women ever get the vote?” or in more extreme moments that maybe public beatings aren’t that bad in concept.

If you made it all the way through that video, you know that Mika’s dad, Zbigniew Brzezinski, former National Security Adviser to former President Jimmy Carter, ignores her. Smart man.

But, what about the generalized concept of women as destroyers of Nations/Civilizations? Black Pigeon Speaks, the maker of this and other videos, posits the following:

1. Women, in general, do not care about their tribe or nation.

2. Women, in general, do not build or maintain society.

3. The half-century long experiment in feminism has failed.

The problem is that for most of the history of the world, most men did not participate in the planning and maintaining of society. Except in the brute force, sweat of the brow kind of way.

Philosopher Thomas Hobbes 1588-1679
Philosopher Thomas Hobbes 1588-1679

Philosopher Thomas Hobbes wrote in his Leviathan in 1651:

No arts; no letters; no society; and which is worst of all, continual fear, and danger of violent death: and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short.

Until very recent history, old Tom Hobbes was dead right. Most men didn’t get to have fun, they couldn’t read, smelled too bad to be let in to the homes of the nobility and lived in constant fear of death from war, pestilence or farm implement. Men died young and women died younger, mostly from things like childbed fever.

What thinkers like Black Pigeon Speaks or late, feminist Betty Freidan seemed to lack is a sense of history. Unless, of course, history began with their generation. Until very recently, men and women didn’t have the luxury to contemplate their navels or wonder about their place in the larger world.

It really did
It really did

If one thinks power is concentrated in the hands of the few now, historically, it was far fewer. Most men and women who survived to their majority, were happy to be engaged in service to someone important, or were a serf or a slave or an indentured servant. Serfdom didn’t end in France until 1798, slavery ended in the United States in 1865, and indentured servitude was not outlawed until 1917 in the United States. All of these abominations, especially slavery, still exist in parts of the world today, 2016.

Just below the nobility, whose lives sucked, too, were the tradesfolk. Lucky children got an apprenticeship, learned a trade and were able to earn a living and find a wife. Oooh.

Marriage for most men and women was not about love or fulfillment, until very recently. There was usually some benefit to both families. Her family may have even paid the husband to take her, one less mouth to feed. The Dowry System still exists in parts of the world today.

Finally, let’s talk about the “half-century experiment in feminism”. What? Half-century? Feminism in the United States got it start in 1848. That happens to be about a quarter century after the beginning of the Industrial Revolution in the United States. Women had more time on their collective hands. Coincidence, nah dude.

Black Pigeon Speaks must be talking about the bra burning 1963, Second Wave Feminism. The angry, male bashing, masculinity hating feminists don’t represent the average woman today anymore than they did in 1963.

“A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.”
― Gloria Steinem

The National Organization for Women (N.O.W.) boasts 500,000 members (not all women) and claims to be the largest feminist organization in the United States. There are 125,900,000 women in the United States (2014). This means that women who identify with this organization represent .004 of the women in the United States. The feminists’ voices are much louder than their reach.

Today’s Destruction

Black Pigeon Speaks uses German Chancellor Angela Merkel as the poster girl for National Destruction. She is allowing hundreds of thousands of unassimilable males (Muslims) to immigrate to Germany and this will eventually destroy Germany.

Response to the German New Year's Eve attacks.
Response to the German New Year’s Eve attacks.

Too True. If Angela Merkel were the only world Head of State allowing this, Black Pigeon Speaks might have a point, in this instance. However, the Pew Research Center has an excellent piece about Muslim immigration in Europe. The countries most impacted by this unassimilable population are France, Belgium, Germany, the United Kingdom and The Netherlands. Only Germany has a female head of state, so this ain’t no chick thing, Black Pigeon.

Black Pigeon’s Problem

Black Pigeon Speaks also seems to think that women want a scoundrel. The examples Mr. Pigeon Speaks uses are the work of fiction “Fifty Shades of Grey” and women who date drug dealers. As if powerful men only come in two choices, Sadist or drug dealer.

Omg… and then it hit me. Black Pigeon speaks is an angry, German, 40 year old man living in his mother’s basement and he cannot get a date and has never been laid.

Today, men and women have freedom of choice. It’s a good thing. We live longer lives, we have nice, fat bellies and, we can read and write. Work for a living or live in your mother’s basement. Climb the corporate ladder or farm the land.

Most men and women prefer monogamy. Wives depend on their husbands and husbands depend on their wives. It is an amazing blessing to be born at this time and be able to live with the modern conveniences that we take for granted.

Black Pigeon Speaks, come out of your mother’s basement. Learn a trade, get a job and, with some income, you can get a date. I am not promising that you will get laid, but miracles do happen.

What Is Happening to Civilization

The people who are destroying civilization are the women and men, who have too much time on their hands and are unhappy souls. The people who are destroying civilization are the politicians whose love of power and whose vanity blinds them to the destruction.

This could be part of the problem
This could be part of the problem

Allowing immigration by those who hold their political/religious ideology above the founding documents that bind the fabric of a nation together will destroy a nation and all of civilization.

Four or so years ago, while we were dog walking, my Syrian Christian neighbor, Dr. A-T, said that before he came to America, he had been a drowning man. The United States of America, he believes, saved his life and he believes that he owes her everything. Immigration is the lifeblood of a nation. Who the immigrant is makes all the difference.

And, feminists are pretty awful.

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  • Merle says:

    I have heard a much simpler, more basic explanation. It goes like this.

    Most women vote democratic, which invites the most corrupt pols to assume power.

    Too many favor the nanny state, so their children will never be hurt, either physically or emotionally. They will automatically be equal, once the playing field is level.

    The lunatic fringe, such as “Moms Demand Action” and “Code Pink” are not ostracized by the general public, giving the impression that their opinion is the popular one.

    There is more, but I think you get the idea. Ladies, think about your actions and pay attention to what you say. A lot of it is not helpful.


  • Toni Williams says:

    Merle- You are correct.

  • GWB says:

    I couldn’t watch the video, but I think I get its points. (Bandwidth here is restricted for videos and such.)

    A couple of points:
    -I wouldn’t say “.004”. I would say “0.4%”. Otherwise people assume you mean “.004%”, which is a LOT smaller number.
    -Half a million folks is actually a lot. If you assume that a lot of folks aren’t joiners, any organization usually gets credit for all those other people. NOW doesn’t have the outsized, unrepresentative membership that AARP does – as far as I know they don’t offer Roadside Assist or restaurant discounts – but it still has way too much influence.
    -Merle makes good points.

    Merle’s points would make for a good jumping-off point for a whole other post.

  • nMaib0 says:

    “The problem is that for most of the history of the world, most men did not participate in the planning and maintaining of society. Except in the brute force, sweat of the brow kind of way”

    Stopped reading there. What an idiotic thing to say.

    • Toni Williams says:


      Why is that an idiotic thing to say?

      Toni S. Williams

      • Oscar Cabral says:

        Your comment can easily be misinterpreted to mean that men in general did not participate in the planning and maintaining of society, which would be false, I’m sure you agree with that. Of course, what you’re actually saying is that most men (as a whole) did not participate. However, it escapes me what relevance that has. For example, most men in the U.S. didn’t participate in getting man to the moon, but it was the actions of men (granted few in number) that did it. The argument here is between genders, men and women, not a numerical majority.

        • Fluflu says:

          I don’t get that. How is ‘getting man to the moon’ an action of only men?… Wasn’t they raised by both their ‘mommy and daddy’? And what if their mom was the one who helped them with homework, so that they can be an astronaut or something like that in the future…? And what if there were women who made the spaceman’s costume’s? Or the food they were eating in the space? … =.= NOTHING can be made by only men or only women…

  • J walter says:

    Shame on you.

    The whole basement dwelling thing is just an ad homminem attack. You attacked him personally because you couldn’t refute his arguement.

    It is no different than instead of me showing where you are wrong, I just say you smell bad. It is not the way to win an arguement. The writing here is usually A+, I expect better from this site.

  • WokenUp says:

    Women destroy everything, because of their infurious greed, constant lying and egomania. They are inhumane creatures, because they have no humanity within them. Also because they dont contribure any sort of significantly to civilisation and never have.

    This is why islam WILL win and take over.
    Just a fact. YOu can choose to further ignore it – and i’m sure yu will – but that doesnt help you in any way.

    Will women destroy civilisation and nations in the west?

    “One must say that the fundamental defect of the female character is a lack of a sense of justice. This originates first and foremost in their want of rationality and capacity for reflexion but it is strengthened by the fact that, as the weaker sex, they are driven to rely not on force but on cunning: hence their instinctive subtlety and their ineradicable tendency to tell lies … Dissimulation is thus inborn in her and consequently to be found in the stupid woman almost as often as in the clever one … A completely truthful woman who does not practice dissimulation is perhaps an impossibility, which is why women see through the dissimulation of others so easily it is inadvisable to attempt it with them.”- Arnold Schopenhauer, philosopher

    This question is in absolutely no intention of blaming all women. However, their behaviours from easy influences are causing many problems in society today.

  • Adar Komdenja says:

    Maybe the islamic attitude towards women are not that bad after all. Turkey sunni muslim president Erdogan: “You cannot make women equal to men.” he said at the Women and Justice summit in Istanbul. “This is against her nature.” Erdogan’s own daughter was in the audience.

  • MB77 says:

    Truly, I understand the direction you are coming from, and in truth, BPS is an exaggerator, not a flat out liar. Allow me to clarify his points, which makes more sense the more of his videos he was, as they all go together.
    First and foremost, is the fact that women are more likely to vote left due to their ‘egalitarian’ policies. However, whether the democrat is genuine or not, the left creates a dependency on the government, much like a basement dwelling German virgin who cannot get outside his mom’s basement and depends on his mom for everything. See where I am going?
    The left wing if you notice always arises when there is prosperity and or economic strife and conservatism arises often in times of political or international strife. However, leftism is a poison. In every nation, leftism brought about the destruction of the nation. The Roman Republic is an example. As more freedoms and rights were delegated out, the Senate grew more and more corrupt and selfish. This led to the collapse and formation of the Roman Empire. The Roman Empire then grew massive, and with the increased diversity, so too came the increase of leftist policies. Finally, the Roman Empire collapsed under all the concessions. In Greece today, socialism has failed, the leeches have at last surpassed the providers, and Greece buckled.
    Simply put, leftism cannot survive in a human society because it will eventually dull the edge of the nation and it will collapse either by leeches, invasion, or civil strife brought on by superdiversity which in itself leads to sectionalism. If a minority grows large enough, you don’t need majority racism to segregate them, they will segregate themselves. This is simply because it is in our nature to live and reproduce with those similar to us. It’s simply biological preference. Now, lets go back to the point of women and how they can be detrimental (of which I think, on a local scale, women make better leaders, however on the grand scale men make better leaders. This being the fact that, when you know everyone, empathy can be permitted, whereas when you don’t know others, a a harder approach is necessary.) to a nation. Primarily, education. Men and women learn differently. Men are a bit more experience and hands-on based learners than women, who are more academic. With the inclusion of women in such mass, education had to be changed, and the influx of more feminine ideals, such as requiring boys to always be very reluctant of confrontation, has led to a nation without a backbone. This thus compounds each generation.

  • Grant says:

    Claiming the far left is a poison that destroys all nations could easily be equally applied to the right. You don’t have to look to hard to see far right policies that have resulted in similar ultimate destruction of nations.
    As with all things the true course of stability is finding the balance between both. Generally it is accepted and confirmed in reputable studies that women tend to lean towards the left, that is true (though there are arguments surrounding exactly what the definitions of left and right really are).
    The easiest truth to understand is that men and women are of course different. It is also understood that men in general react stronger (think creation of armies etc) to defend their hard earned. That is ingrained and required for our survival.
    The general argument being put forward can be simplified by basically stating that given the above known truths which are not debated or amplified, It will only be men who will be able to react strongly enough to defend our hard earned way of life when required. Women historically and genetically have never and will never be able to for those very truthfully honest reasons. As much as some women hate that reality, it is none the less, reality.
    The argument therefore of women being responsible for the apparent inevitable decline of this hard earned way of life can be simplified in those terms. Videos like this grey the areas by diverging into territory not necessarily proven.
    At it’s most basic level men are defenders of the tribe (yes a few women try and help), always have been and genetically always will be. As we now live in a society where more women are placed in positions responsible for this defence (political, ruling and defence) we are more vulnerable to failing in that defence. Once again, it will be up to the men to stand and fight. The men (by vast majority and curtesy of our genetics) will again offer up their lives to defend our hard earned way of life. As has been in every recorded history and as will be again.
    It would be nice if women actually acknowledged that and simply said thanks!
    God forbid men finally decide women are not worth defending any more.
    Feminists should tread carefully would be my advice from here on.

    • Fluflu says:

      Well, I don’t think it’s ‘reality’ that women can’t defend ‘the way of life’ or that they’re not strong enough to do so – just look at the mother protecting her child… It’s simply biology…

  • Kjetil says:

    Your Hobbes quote is to totally wrong. Man is here meaning all people, not only men. Guess English isn’t your first language?

    Another thing that quite a bold statement is that men hasn’t buildt society. Are you serious? Men has built societies since the age of man. Like the Egypt empire, Ancient Greece, USA, and so on, I can’t actually think of any civilization without men being the main builder. Look around you. At all the things you have. Can’t you find anything that was invented and built by a woman? When it comes to political leaders and to philsofers how many women are among them? A few, but far outnumbered by men.

    • Practical Princess says:

      I’ve read these comments in the optimistic hope they are dripping with sarcasm. Politics, Employment and Education are arenas where access has been exclusive to men until very recently historically. The whole postulation that women destroy civilisation is ludicrous and just a front for BPS to present what are basically his pretty sketchy personal opinions on women, politics and immigration. I always think men who invest too much time dissecting the behaviour of women like this, don’t really know or interact with that many. You need people for a civilisation, any civilisation, and as much as men would like to take all the credit populations even ‘civilised’ ones require two genders to exist. Women’s liberation is/was at it’s idealogical height about liberating women from the bonds of patriarchy, about them making a unique female contribution to society, having the equal right and opportunity to do so as do men, and never about being equal to men. It seems to have been co-opted by the equality movement which is paradoxically limiting for both sexes.
      Unwin’s theory is flawed because it’s postulated from the perspective of a man who explicitly believes women are inferior to men. This whole thing reeks of cognitive dissonance at every turn. Civilisations rise and fall, not one has lasted forever, not one. If civilisation is the best that men have to offer the world, seeing as the planet is irreversibly damaged by this modern reboot, it might be best for us all to kiss it goodbye. War, greed, poverty and pollution are not the gifts of women.

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