Turtler says:

Ah yes. Discount Roehm comes back to be a hateful, idiotic Fascist while not understanding what any of those terms mean.

Let’s dissect this.

“You have to admit, it was pretty ballsy for Biden to arrive in the middle of war zone via a ten hour train ride.”

No, not really. Especially not on such a telegraphed line. The Kremlin’s had enough trouble reliably targeting transportation in the far West of Ukraine even when it wants to, and it certainly had little incentive to blow up Biden for various reasons. And if you are truly stupid enough to think that even in a White House dominated by a senile, corrupt, and stupid white supremacist’s handlers that there were not under the table discussions with the Kremlin about this exact topic to make sure nothing happened, you are dumber than I thought.

Which given your previous track record is saying something.

“One would think if the Secret Service had any say over his excursion, they would have nixed the “ten hour train ride through a war zone.”

If one has no clue what the Secret Service is or how they operate. Here’s a Hint: Wartime Excursions are kind of things the Secret Service has been doing. Indeed their precursors like the Pinkertons had to consider it as far back as the American Civil War. They’ve had plenty of practice with this for at least 20 years.

“It took TFG (the F%&king Genius) three years (or was it four years?) to go visit the US troops in a US green zone. ”

Ah yes, the idiocy and Trump Derangement Syndrome comes to the table. Firstly you fool: Trump was inaugurated in early January 2017, as is unsurprising. He visited troops in-theater no later than November 2018.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50594943

(See? That’s the BBC. So don’t try and dismiss this evidence as if it were some kind of biased right-wing echo chamber.)

I realize research – and reason, and basic math – are not your strong suits, but November 2018 – January 2017 gets you less than TWO Years elapse of time, let alone the three or four your incoherent drivel posited. Moreover, they are AMERICAN Soldiers, aka part of the constituency of any American President.

Now, that raises another issue. It’s interesting you tried to very very hard to deflect the issue onto Trump to feed your Derangement Syndrome and make your side look better, but when was the first time Biden visited troops?

Trump went straight from Private Citizen to President. Biden has been in politics for decades upon decades and Congresscritters can visit their constituents in the field. So how many times has he done that during his long, long career?

“TFG wouldn’t spent ten seconds on a train rambling through a war zone. ”

Because it’s a goddamn waste of time and effort, and also because the people the Coalition was fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan were nowhere near as “rational” as even Bad Vlad is, and were more likely to break the unwritten agreements of politics and diplomacy to blow up a POTUS. Because while Putin is a dictator who engages in state terrorism, the likes of Al Qaeda in Iraq, IS, and Quds Force *ARE TERRORISTS AS THEIR PRIMARY IDENTITY* and cannot be trusted.

And even if you completely ignore what a security risk trains would be in the likes of Afghanistan and Iraq as well as the limited rail capacity of both countries, THEY STILL TAKE FAR MORE TIME THAN JETTING IN AND OUT. WHICH IS KIND OF IMPORTANT IF YOU ARE ACTING AS AN ACTIVE PRESIDENT. The fact that you “THINK” (and I use the term EXTREMELY loosely) that this is a sound argument or makes you look good underlines what a fool you are.

“It’s being widely reported (of course, except for the propaganda conservative media outlets) it was a huge success. Kind of like his State of the Union speech”

Firstly: I don’t want to hear a single thing out of the oversized cloaca you call your head about “widely reported” anything, considering you so obviously could not research the widely reported visits Trump made to US Troops in the field in 2018.

Secondly: On its practical matters it was a modest success but it was still an overwrought PR exercise where rather little was accomplished. Not helped by the fact that Biden is such a caustic donkey he makes even Trump look like the very soul of tact (and Biden has a bad habit of biting the hands that feed and guard him, as shown by his order to “CLAP” to a bunch of very awkward, very baffled servicepeople).

“Earlier, the visits to Iraq or of Donald Trump to Afghanistan were after hostilities had ended and the territory was under US control. ”

This is stupid on a grandiose level. If you are claiming that “hostilities had ended” in Iraq or Afghanistan in 2018, you are simply not researching the matter. The fact that hostilities were much diminished from their height is not Trump’s fault, and in fact he visited several bases that had been attacked before.

But of course, Kevin can’t admit that Trump actually visited American troops much more dutifully and consistently than Brandon has. So he has to try and snidely undermine the man he has an obsessive, petty name for while insisting he does not suffer from TDS and will totally stop talking about Trump once he leaves public life.

(Sure Kevin, not like you haven’t proven yourself to be a liar with a poor grasp on reality before.)

“In Ukraine, neither the airspace nor the ground was under US control and Secret Service only had limited presence.”

But the balance was that the ground was under Ukrainian control (which liaised extensively with the US), the Air was almost a no go zone for combatants, and for all of Putin’s many, MANY sins and evils he does not want to send NATO crashing down on his head by blowing up a nominal POTUS, nor does he want any of his rabid dogs of war like Wagner or the Russian Imperial Movement to do so.

Especially since unlike a stateless terrorist organization or something like Quds Force that could strike from the shadows, he has much less to gain from killing a weak President (as Biden undeniably is) in exchange for alienating himself from the global stage further and risking direct war with the West. And the fact that you are purposefully ignoring this very basic point underlines what you are.

“The New York Times reported that there is no equivalent of Biden’s visit since at least Abraham Lincoln who visited the Civil War battle zones.””

This is absolute bullshit on multiple levels. Johnson and Nixon both visited South Vietnam – Johnson multiple times – during the 1960s, at a time when the countryside was in a state of civil war and Communist Northern invasion. Indeed, Johnson’s visit to Cam Rahm came just MONTHS before the Tet Offensive started. I despise Johnson on a profound level and think he was one of our least capable, worst Presidents, but I cannot fault him for making a trip that was far more dangerous than this PR stunt. But even if we look back, Roosevelt and Truman both visited either active war zones or areas under military occupation, with Roosevelt at Tehran being a key example of this (and the risk being shown by how the Nazis actively sought out a way to decapitate the combined Allied leadership by fishing around among their dirty deeds units like Skorzenky’s Brain Trust and the Special Operations units of the SS).

https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/times-insider/2015/07/16/1943-in-tehran-the-timess-international-edition-is-born/

But of course history can be discarded when it suits the purpose of the Current Narrative, even if the current authors of the Times have to stomp on the legacy of those they inherited it from.

“Hmmm …. staged. Yeah. Right.”

Yeah, that is right. And the fact that you are either feigning ignorance of or actually are staggeringly ignorant about this says nothing good about you.