Buttigieg & Moulton Condemn Trump For Not Serving

Buttigieg & Moulton Condemn Trump For Not Serving

Buttigieg & Moulton Condemn Trump For Not Serving

The media, not to mention the Democratic Party, have no shame. Our nation just commemorated Memorial Day, remembering all the men and women who laid down their lives to protect this country. In an attempt to take advantage of the swell of patriotism associated with the day, several Democratic candidates for their party’s presidential nomination stepped forward to, as the New York Times put it, to question President Trump’s “medical deferment from service in Vietnam — and, in turn, his patriotism and integrity.” Leading the charge are Pete Buttigieg and Seth Moulton, proving there’s nothing they won’t stoop to in an attempt to win the nomination.

Not only have these two politicians, and I say that with a full sneer on my face and disgust in my voice, accused Trump of “faking” a disability, they do their best to tug at the heartstrings, saying the President’s alleged actions forced “another American of Trump’s generation to risk his life in the jungles of Southeast Asia.”

I don’t think that lying to get out of serving your country is patriotic. It’s not like there was just some empty seat in Vietnam. Someone had to go in his place,” Moulton said Sunday on MSNBC. “I’d like to meet the American hero who went in Donald Trump’s place to Vietnam. I hope he’s still alive.”

There are several things wrong with Moulton’s statement. First, he basically says Trump lied about having bone spurs and that the doctor who signed off on it aided and abetted in this lie. There is no proof of any lie, at least none that I’ve found. But, damn, it makes a good soundbite, doesn’t it?

The next thing about his statement that is worrisome is how he apparently has forgotten Trump isn’t the only politician to avoid service during the Vietnam War. I know, I know, some folks would prefer we call it a conflict, but I grew up during that time. It was a war. One where our military leaders weren’t allowed to do what was necessary to win it and bring our military home sooner, rather than later.

Bernie Sanders, that fine socialist, applied for conscientious objector status during Vietnam. Only a few days ago, he “outlined his anti-war foreign policy.” Not only did he avoid serving in the military, he now wants to hamstring it and let our enemies know it.

But the Bobsey Twins, Buttigieg and Moulton, say nothing about that. Apparently, Moulton doesn’t want to meet the hero who took Sanders’ place in the jungle of Southeast Asia.

And let’s not forget about Joe Biden. The former Vice-President had five, count them five, deferments during the war and was finally “disqualified” from serving due to an earlier diagnosis of asthma. Now, I don’t know about you, but it really looks like he used his student deferments as long as he could, hoping like so many other young men did that the war would end before their number came up in the draft. When it didn’t, he pulled out the old asthma diagnosis. But, again, Buttigieg and Moulton say nothing about him.

Hmm, one begins to wonder how deep they are into Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Then there’s the hero of the Democratic Party, at least until Obama’s election–Bill Clinton. Slick Willie who joined the ROTC in college to avoid the draft but who then went ahead and registered for the draft. He did so not because he believed in the war or was willing to serve to protect the country but because it was a way “to maintain my political viability within the system”.

For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel compelled to try to lead.”

This man, and I use that term loosely, only registered for the draft so he could run for office. Even then, he thought and acted like a politician and not a patriot. But, again, nary a word from Buttigieg or Moulton. No wish to talk to the hero who took Slick Willie’s place.

But double-standard aside, how many of our past presidents have served in the military? Of our 45 presidents, 29 served. In the last 100 years, starting with Woodrow Wilson’s administration, 10 of 18 presidents served in the military. Of those 10, four were Democrats and six were Republicans. Those who didn’t serve include Obama, the latest “hero” of the party. Where are the criticisms because he didn’t step forward and volunteer to serve?

In a play to persuade Republicans to break ranks, Buttigieg said he was “old enough to remember when conservatives talked about character as something that mattered in the presidency.” The candidates should all remember that goes both ways. If you start questioning one person’s character, you’d better expect them to start looking closely at your own. Part of character is applying standards fairly across the board, something Buttigieg and company have forgotten.

As for the media, WaPo is working overtime trying to spread this story. Not only does it give space to Buttigieg, Moulton and company, but it has another article about their comments as well.

We’ve had presidents who were immoral, backwards and had terrible policies. We’ve had presidents who were criminals. I don’t think we’ve ever had a president who is so fundamentally unpatriotic,” Moulton told Anderson Cooper last night on CNN. “Even Richard Nixon served his country and was proud to do so. This president is much more interested in siding with dictators, if it’s good for his ratings. And that’s pretty pathetic for the commander in chief.”

Read that again and ask yourself how he could say that with a straight face.

I tell you, TDS is alive and well and thriving in the Democratic candidates.

As a military mom, I have the utmost respect for those men and women who step up and volunteer to serve the country. However, when they then use that service for personal gain or political points, I start to wonder at their motivation. Right now, my money is on Buttigieg and especially Moulton walking in Bill Clinton’s shoes–serving because they wanted to go into politics and knew it would look good on the resume.

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  • Mad Celt says:

    No one succeeds by pointing out the flaws of his opponent. These bozos have no ideas, no goid theories to put before the public. Nothing but an endless spew of how bad Trump is. Okay. Tell me what he’s so damned awful at and why you’d be much better.

    • Amanda Green says:

      Well said, Mad Celt. I completely agree. But I’ll go one further. Tell me why you’d be better and how you’d pay for the programs you are proposing. That’s something else they never tell us before they’re elected–how they will pay for those “wonderful” social programs they want to shove down our throats.

    • zenman says:

      Division = Dollars

      In this case, saying mean things about opponent will gain them social recognition and boost their fundraising.

      • Amanda Green says:

        At least that’s what they think. It does get them more MSM headlines. Not sure what it will do for their fundraising except, perhaps, with the younger voters.

  • zenman says:

    It’s not Trump Derangement in this case, it’s plain old political hypocrisy. They drag it out whenever a Republican didn’t serve “in the war.” They did it to Bush 2 because he only served in the Air National Guard.

    • Amanda Green says:

      Hypocrisy with a capital HYPOCRISY. But a strong dose of TDS as well. I swear, they can’t get over the fact Hillary doesn’t sit in the Oval Office and they are willing to sacrifice the country to get the man who defeated her out of office.

  • zenman says:

    Here’s a case that could be made…

    If Mayor Pete were still in the service his conduct would be unbecoming of a U.S. Naval officer. So, his military career and the standards by which he conducted himself are no longer applicable to who he is today, an opportunistic leftwing politician. He may be ‘moderate’ in appearance but he’s a dyed in the wool socialist.

  • wayne says:

    The Left who promoted and celebrated draft dodgers during the Vietnam War, is now all of a sudden, against draft dodging. At least Trump likes the military while the Clintons loathed them.
    Many people were able to dodge the draft for medical reasons. Some legit, some not. The Army does a lot of marching and walking which requires good feet and endurance.
    Trump got a medical deferment for bone spurs and Biden for asthma. Recently the Democrat daughters of the New York doctor, who died a few years back, claimed their father gave Trump the deferment as a favor to Trump’s father. Maybe true, maybe not, maybe just because the daughters, like most Democrats, hate Trump.
    Biden, a high school and college athlete and lifeguard, also got a medical deferment, for asthma. Maybe legit, maybe not.
    One of the problems on medical deferments, is that the Military usually didn’t do the deferment examinations themselves, merely relying on a doctor’s note. Others got continual college deferments by going to grad schools forever.
    But the funniest thing about this Vietnam draft dodger denigration is, again, that the liberals, hippies and Democrats championed draft dodging and made heroes of the draft dodgers.

    • Amanda Green says:

      Another perfect example of their double-standard and descent into TDS.

      As a military mom, I have to agree with you as well about how Trump at least supports the military. Of course, anything would be an improvement over the last administration. Another indication of the difference between Trump and many of those pols the Dems hold in such high esteem is how the military views them. I know vets who served during the Clinton years. Whenever he visited bases they were stationed at, the COs had to order people to “volunteer” to stand with him and show support. None of those I know in the military now report the same thing happening when Trump is around. That, to me, speaks volumes.

      • GWB says:

        0bama “supported” the military in some of his statements, and in budgeting. What he manifestly always failed to do was respect them. That whole bit with the umbrella was so very minor, yet so VERY huge.

        There were folks who volunteered to see 0bama when he did his photo-ops with the troops. The military is not a political mono-culture. But nothing like Bush (43) or Reagan or Trump.

    • GWB says:

      who died a few years back
      Convenient, that.
      (And inadmissible to me, since it’s hearsay, as well as unprovable.)

    • No Dodger says:

      Re: asthma and the military.
      I have asthma. Had to lie about it to join the Army. Served 22 years, multiple overseas combat and advisory tours. Airborne and Air Assault. All that jazz. I’d rather claim to be a draft dodger than say I didn’t serve because of asthma.

  • GWB says:

    the Bobsey Twins
    Make that the Boobsey Twins. That way you’re not insulting the actual Bobset Twins.

    We’ve had presidents who were immoral
    — Clinton/Johnson.
    — Carter.
    and had terrible policies.
    — All of them.
    We’ve had presidents who were criminals.
    — Clinton. (What was Nixon ever convicted of? What did he do that was actually a CRIME?)
    a president who is so fundamentally unpatriotic
    — Well, there’s that one that arguably wasn’t an actual American.

    This president is much more interested in siding with dictators
    You mean… like Castro, Chavez/Maduro, Putin, and Xi? Every last one of whose asses was kissed by the JEF?

    But, seriously, how does one go about actually seeing Trump as UNpatriotic? The man stands adamantly against globalism; he’s poked the Chinese right in the eye; he baits the Russian bear constantly; and he has worked to promote America and Americans at every turn.

    To turn a phrase: If he were anti-American, what would he do differently? Well… EVERYTHING!

    This is just more Orwellian bullsh*t poured forth for the consumption of those whose diet consists of a huge amount of Orwellian bullsh*t. Coprophagia, it’s what’s for breakfast (news)!

  • Anchovy says:

    Mayor Pete enjoyed group Army showers.

    • Amanda Green says:

      GWB, you are asking the wrong questions. You should be asking “patriotic to which country?”. I have a very sick feeling if the liberals in question actually answered honestly, it wouldn’t be patriotic to this country. At least not to the country you and I love or to the ideals upon which it was founded.

      • GWB says:

        Concur entirely (though how this ended up under Anchovy’s comment is known only to WP). In many cases their loyalty is to a global, world gov’t. In the other cases it’s to an America much closer to Brave, New World than anything our Founding Fathers hoped for.

        (FYI, you and I would never be Alphas in that world, because our thoughts are not approved.)

  • David Byler says:

    In which of the armed services have Buttigieg and Moulton served?

  • GWB says:

    Buttigieg served as an intelligence officer in the Naval Reserve from 2009 to 2017, including deploying to Afghanistan for 7 months.
    Moulton was a Marine Corps officer from 2001 to 2008, with 4 tours in Iraq and earning a Bronze Star.

  • John C. says:

    Well, speaking from personal experience, the reason bone spurs can defer one from military service is because they can make wearing boots unbearable. And it used to be that allergies to wool and some other things I don’t remember (I tried to join in ’71, so it’s been a long time since I had to remember this) made one 4F; wool in particular, since they were still making military uniforms out of it. I don’t know whether Trump actually had bone spurs, and neither does almost everybody else.

    Pointing out that people Democrats favor also sought deferments during the Vietnam War will provoke cries of whataboutism, but I prefer to think of it in light of John 8:7 – “…He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone…”

    • Amanda Green says:

      One of the reasons my dad was 4-F was because of flat feet. Then there was the wool allergy. So, yeah, those sorts of “defects” did get you out of service, whether you wanted them to or not.

      As for whether or not Trump actually had bone spurs, unless someone comes up with the original medical records, no one will ever know. All we have to say if was a spurious claim is a statement from the dead doctor’s daughters who were not, to the best of my knowledge, part of the exam or of his office. So they would not have, in all likelihood, have personal knowledge of what Trump’s medical records might contain. There is a reason courts allow hearsay only in very limited situations. That’s something to consider here as well.

  • John Reece says:

    I was NROTC at Berkeley during the tail end of Vietnam and have lived in several Peoples Republics since then.

    Based on years of observation I’d say any leftist flinging a ‘chickenhawk’ accusation wanted America to lose the war in question.

  • Ding says:

    “The media, not to mention the Democratic Party, have no shame.“

    This sentence has been approved by the Department of Redundancy Department.

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