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Should a 72-year-old woman be allowed to have a baby through IVF?

Should a 72-year-old woman be allowed to have a baby through IVF?

Breaking news this morning: the world’s oldest (single) mother has died, leaving behind two-year-old twins.

A Spanish woman who deceived a U.S. fertility clinic about her age and become the oldest woman to give birth has died at 69, leaving behind 2-year-old twins, newspapers reported Wednesday.

Maria del Carmen Bousada gave birth in December 2006 after telling a clinic in Los Angeles that she was 55, the facility’s maximum age for single women receiving in-vitro fertilization. Guinness World Records said the 66-year-old was the oldest on record to give birth and the case ignited fierce debate over how much responsibility fertility clinics have over their patients.

Bousada told an interviewer at the time that the Pacific Fertility Center did not ask her for identification, and maintained that because her mother had died at 101, she stood a good chance of living long enough to raise her children.

… “I think everyone should become a mother at the right time for them,” Bousada told the paper. “Often circumstances put you between a rock and a hard place, and maybe things shouldn’t have been done in the way they were done, but that was the only way to achieve the thing I had always dreamed of, and I did it,” she said.

Fresh on the heels of that story comes this video from that liberal cesspool, The View. The topic in question is whether or not 72-year-old Jenny Brown should be allowed to have a baby through in vitro fertilization. From Newsbusters:

A 72-year-old woman wants a baby and plans to have one via in vitro fertilization. The women on “The View” have conflicting feelings about it.

“72-year-old Jenny Brown has spent almost $50,000 on in vitro fertilization because she is determined to have a baby, saying her age doesn’t matter because a mom can die at any age and she’s fully prepared for the hard work of motherhood,” Whoopi Goldberg explained on July 15, the same day the Associated Press reported the World’s oldest mom died and left behind two-year-old twins.

Barbara Walters, who is around 80, said absolutely not: “Whatever in vitro doctor or clinic gives this woman in vitro fertilization, it ought to be closed. There’s got to be some law.” The question of what responsibilities doctors and clinics have has been debated recently, especially in the case of Nadya Suleman and her octuplets.

Sherri Shepherd agreed with Walters: “… she also says that, you know, young people die, too. But young people don’t die of natural causes … she’s 72. She has more likelihood of dying from natural causes than a young person.”

Elisabeth Hasselbeck, currently pregnant with her third child, also opposed the idea, and remarked on the selfishness of wanting a child at that age and ignoring the “after.”

But of course, liberal loony Joy Behar had her own wacky opinions. Watch this video to see what she had to say:

Here’s what Joy Behar and this Jenny Brown are mising. Parenthood is not about you. You do not have children to fulfill a lifelong dream, just like you don’t go to Nadya Suleman Octomom route and have fourteen children to make up for the loneliness you felt in your own childhood.

Having a baby at 72 is incredibly selfish. The average life expectancy for an American woman is just short of 81. So if this woman lives to the average age of an Amerian woman and dies at 81, she’ll have orphaned her children at 9 years old. And on top of that, there’s the question of being fit and healthy enough to actually survive childbirth. Giving birth can be dangerous even for young women. For a 72-year-old, it can be even more life-threatening.

Another thing that was ignored by Joy Behar and the selfish 72-year-old woman is the astounding risk of birth defects in older women. Compared to mothers aged 20 – 29, mothers over the age of 50 see risks of extremely low birth weight, small size for gestational age, and fetal mortality almost double. Premature birth is also an increased risk for mothers over the age of 50, as if gestational diabetes, miscarriages, and hypertension. There are multiple increased risks for both mother and child. Yet there are certainly people who would advoate for women being able to have children at any age they choose, usually liberals and feminists. They ignore facts such as these. Like it or not, and politically correct or not, there is a reason women go through menopause and cannot have children after a certain age. Defying that is more than just selfish; it is reckless and stupid.

Now, as to Joy Behar’s claim that 72-year-old men have children “all the time”. Yes, men can father children pretty much up until the day the die. It doesn’t mean they should. And although there are some men that do, it’s not a usual occurence.

So, let’s look at all the risks before this Jenny Brown. She’s putting herself at extreme health risks. She’s putting her child at extreme risk for birth defects and possible perinatal mortality. Then, she’s also got to survive childbirth. Assuming she does all that, and gives birth to a healthy child, she’s going to have to find the energy and stamina at 72 to care for a baby, and then a toddler, and then a preschooler… and so on. And even if she defies the odds and is able to do all of these things, she’s still likely to make her child an orphan before they’re even 10 years old. And that’s just an awful thing to put a child through when it’s a risk you can avoid. I’m sure it hurts to know you’ve missed out on your chance to have a baby, but you cannot play God and go back in time to be 25 again.

There needs to be some sort of ethical guidelines for this. I can’t imagine that any IVF clinic would do this, but you wouldn’t think that anyone would let someone like Nadya Suleman be implanted with six embryos when she’s single, unemployed, and already has six children, either, and yet there was a doctor that did it. Ethics matter, especially when it comes to children. It’s one thing for an adult to take certain health risks, but it isn’t fair to put a child at such risk simply to fill an emotional hole in your heart. That’s shallow, it’s selfish, and it is WRONG.

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10 Comments
  • BobV says:

    No, she shouldn’t. IVF isn’t a basic right and I think fertility doctors should have the obligation to refuse treatment in some cases (at the risk of losing their license).

    She had ample opportunities to have a kid and didn’t take them. Sorry but like everything else in life there is a time limit here.

  • Mat says:

    I read this story earlier in the day and I was wondering if Cassy would have any thoughts on this. I have my answer 🙂

    Personally, I think it’s idiotic for a woman to have a kid past menopause, I don’t care how healthy they are. However, do live in the time of the “me’s” so I’m not really all that surprised that this stuff is happening.

    On a side note, Cassy, did you read the part where the writer compared this Spanish woman to the Romanian 66 year old who also had kids? Better yet, did you see the comment the Romanian made?

    ” ‘It is a great sadness when kids are orphans but civil society will help these children,’ she told The AP.”

    So essentially, it a-ok to pump out kids when you’re 60+ and then croak because, hey, the rest of us will pick up the tab afterwards. Oh well, I guess it really does take a village to raise kids these days. After all this time, I honestly believed that it took two responsible parents. Silly me, what I was I thinking?

  • W from MP says:

    I agree that such an act is very selfish. At her age would she qualify to adopt an older child, perhaps from foster care? I tend to suspect that she just wants to experience the first few years of being a mother, thus why something like foster care would not be an appealing idea for her.

    We can only hope for doctors with conscience. Then again, I’m sure it won’t be long before the government regulates IVF.

    -W
    Mostly Politics- http://bill84121.blogspot.com

  • Melinda P says:

    How stupid are people? There is a reason that we women can only have children for so many years. There is a reason that God created women to go through menopause, and that’s because you don’t have the energy needed to keep up with young children! I think we need to be careful what we wish for in life. If you wanted children and missed the opportunity, then it’s your own fault.

  • mj says:

    While men in their 70s can father children, increasing age ups the chances of birth defects. Beyond 40 or so, DNA fragmentation becomes problematic.

    Biologically, both men and women are less equipped as parents as the years go by. And, yes, there are also some pretty important socio-cultural reasons why there is an optimum season in life for parenting.

  • dwo says:

    Selfish? Yep. Medically unsound? Yep. Allowed?! As a thought experiment ,suppose the woman is financially sound and has a good support group around her to help rear the child if the mother should die early on. Is it the governments responsibility to regulate this? I don’t think so. As an ethical thing, she should not have the child. As a legal issue it’s a bit more difficult for this libertarian leaning conservative.

  • I’m sure it hurts to know you’ve missed out on your chance to have a baby, but you cannot play God and go back in time to be 25 again.

    Cas, that’s the understatement of the week. A woman who is 45 might have missed her chance to have a baby, but she would still be young enough to have a child and might live to see her grandkids.

    66, 72… that’s just another story altogether.

    Now, with all due respect, I think you are missing the point on the issue of male fertility. Perhaps this is me, as a traditional marriage type, talking here, but, in a monogamous, lifelong marriage, fertile 72-year-old men are a moot point. A man can be 70 and virile, but, once the wife undergoes menopause, the couple has become infertile.

    (If you want to go the route of 72-year-old male with a young woman – young enough for her fertility to make up for the age-related decline in his – well, there just aren’t many 25-year-old women who would like to sleep with geriatrics.)

  • Chris M-G says:

    Doctors are already being censored- if they can’t refuse certain practices based on religious beliefs, why should they be able to refuse other practices based on conscience?

  • Zirbert says:

    I’m pretty much with dwo (comment # 7) on this one. “Allowed”? Probably, yes. I generally don’t want the government telling anyone whether they can or cannot have children.

    However, just because she should be “allowed” to doesn’t make it right. Or intelligent, or even sane. No one with a shred of sense should be willing to help this woman in her ridiculous, selfish quest.

    There are lots of things that I don’t think people should do, but that I also don’t think the government should be telling them they aren’t allowed to do.

    -Zirbert
    http://zirbert.blogspot.com

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