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It’s sad that this even must be said. But apparently, it must be. Over at Feministe, Jill is upset over a sticky little situation where two trans women caused a stir by going topless at a beach in Delaware. They weren’t arrested, though, because it’s only illegal for women to be topless, and these two are men.

Rehoboth Beach in Delaware isn’t a topless beach — but a few transgender women caused a stir by treating it like one.

Police say passers-by complained after they removed their tops and revealed their surgically enhanced breasts over Memorial Day weekend. A lifeguard asked them to put their tops back on. They initially refused, but covered up before police arrived.

Even if they hadn’t, though, Police Chief Keith Banks notes they were doing nothing illegal. Since they have male genitalia, they can’t be charged with indecent exposure for showing their breasts. Banks says there’s no need for a specific law to address the issue.

Rehoboth Beach commissioner Kathy McGuiness isn’t so sure. She says the matter will be discussed at a town hall meeting next week.

I’ll start by saying that I agree with Commissioner McGuiness. If you’re a dude who has had breast implants, then you shouldn’t be running around topless either if a beach is not a topless beach.

Now, Jill is upset for reasons I can’t really understand. She’s glad that they weren’t arrested — but she’s upset that their “gender” wasn’t recognized. I’m curious. If their supposed female gender was recognized, then they should’ve been arrested. But Jill doesn’t want them to be arrested because they are transgendered… because apparently anyone who is trans should be allowed to break the law?

This kind of thing makes me glad to live in a place where toplessness is equal-opportunity and not illegal. But that aside, the whole story is weird. I always thought that the problem with female toplessness was OMG BOOBS! But here we have female toplessness and boobs, but it’s not illegal because there’s no vagina involved? (As an aside, how does anyone even know what’s in the pants of the topless trans women?). Of course it’s a good thing that the trans women weren’t arrested, but it’s kind of cold comfort when the reason behind it is, basically, “You aren’t really women.” Wouldn’t this be easier if we just stopped freaking out about boobs and bodies, and if we all just agreed that if some people can have their chests on display in public, everyone can?

First of all, I personally disagree with public nudity. I also do not consider a man’s bare chest public nudity. I do not, however, have any issues with a particular city or town allowing female toplessness. I don’t want to have to see topless women when I go to the beach. That’s the beauty of this country, see — if I don’t like public female toplessness, I can move to a city where it’s illegal. Jill, who likes public female toplessness, can move to a city where it’s allowed. It isn’t a one way or the other situation, although with liberals like Jill it’s always the case where it has to be their way or the highway.

As for the “how do you know what’s in the pants of a trans woman” question, I’d imagine that their (ahem) packages were visible in their bikinis.

Which brings me to my final point. The police officer was correct in this case, and Jill has no reason to be offended. Let’s establish a basic anatomical fact, here and now: if you have a penis, you are a man. END OF STORY! I know, I know, this will immediately cause me to be denounced as transphobic and homophobic and a bigot and a prude and all of the other fun things that feminists and gay rights activists like to smear people with when confronted with anatomical fact. I get that sometimes a dude thinks he’s a woman. And yeah, he might have surgery to disfigure himself to look like one. But the anatomical truth is that if you have a dick, you are NOT a freakin’ woman. If you have a vagina, you are NOT a man. It’s that simple.

And frankly, I still don’t believe having a sex change makes you a different gender. If you’re a guy who chops his penis off and has a vagina sculpted there instead, you’re just a guy who permanently disfigured himself. It’s like I said before:

Just because you castrate some guy and carve a vagina into him and pump him full of hormones, how does that make him female? There is more to a vagina than what you see in Playboy, biologically speaking. Most of it is inside our bodies, not outside. I don’t think doctors can add on a cervix, or a uterus, or ovaries, or fallopian tubes, or any of that kind of thing — just like you can’t add on a prostate or testis to a woman.

I’m no doctor, but I’m pretty sure that organ donations don’t normally include uteruses, or cervixes, or fallopian tubes to give to men who want to become women. My point is that the anatomical truth stands. You can do whatever you want to your body, you can carve it up however you like, but biologically speaking, you remain the gender you were born with. Don’t blame me for not being in complete and utter denial of a little thing called science. Remember Thomas Beatie, the so-called pregnant man? It wasn’t actually a man who got pregnant, it was a woman who chopped off her boobs, dressed like a dude, and took testosterone therapy… until she decided she wanted to have a kid.

When she decided to carry their child, she said herself that she didn’t have to take any estrogen or any other kind of feminine hormones. She simply stopped her testosterone therapy, and boom, her body regulated itself, she was having periods again, and was able to get pregnant.

I’d say that’s a pretty compelling argument that sex changes don’t actually change your sex. You’re just wearing a permanent costume.

It’s a costume. It’s a guy dressing up like a girl, or a girl dressing up like a guy. And hey, they have every right to do so. I don’t think there should be any rules against it, nor do I think they should be harassed or intimidated or anything of that nature. If that’s what makes them happy, then go for it. But let’s get real here, and call it what it is.

These two weren’t arrested because they were men, despite their breast implants (and probably countless other gender modifications). Regardless of how much people like Jill huff and puff about it, the fact remains that if you have a penis, you are a MAN.

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  • WeaselMomma says:

    You would think that people would have this basic knowledge down before they go to kindergarten.

  • Stan says:

    Personally I happen to like what nature provided to the female gender.

  • smitty says:

    Human, certainly; boy, possibly: but manhood is an earned thing.

  • I have to read this again tonight at beer o’clock.

    I’m sure you wrote it up okay, but I’m having some trouble figuring out the ins & outs (oops! sorry) of what’s going on here. Makin’ my head hurt.

  • Todd Gingrich says:

    This is great. My family and I have a place in Bethany and have made trips to Rehobeth for years. It’s a nice place. There is a large gay community who for the most part are great people. However with the homosexual prescence come those who are radical Leftists who want to push their agenda at all costs. For example one can not go to the major bookstore in town and find conservative books because the Tolerant Left hides or defaces the few that are present. Rehobeth makes a huge amount of money off of tourism. If these He/Shes are allowed to parade around with their breasts hanging out the town will lose a lot of tourism dollars. It will be interesting to see if pursuing a radical agenda is more important to certain fringe elements of the community than making a living.

  • SWLiP says:

    Here’s a thought: Do a Google image search, or Youtube search, for “Dana International,” and come back here and say, “That’s a man.”

    Another thought: We are dealing with a lot of problems in this country, problems caused by people who are in a position to cause real harm to us, both physically and economically. Why go out of the way to be nasty towards people who aren’t hurting anyone?

  • Dave in San Diego says:

    When in doubt, ask a kid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQvnZOR_oIk

  • mj says:

    Odds are pretty good that however the cops reacted would have been a problem to Jill.

    I like the update, “…and that they’re actually transmasculine/genderqueer.” Of course! Why didn’t you say so?

  • DavidL says:

    People are on of two sexes, with male or female. Sex is immutable. While quacks can mutilate a victim’s genitals, they can not alter a person’s sex. Gender is only a property of nouns, masculine or feminine.

  • Smithwick says:

    This is a perfect situation for feminists.

    Cops do nothing and they’re bigots for not recognizing these individuals gender choices. Feminists complain.

    Cops arrest them and they are oppressing these free spirits and enforcing the sexist patriarchy . . . .rape culture . . . glass ceiling . . . nonsense. Feminists complain.

  • Smithwick says:

    I think that for every generation for every different group that people assign themselves to there will always be a certain subset that are only content when they are outraged. So you have for instance, the majority of black Americans who are content, then you have the Jesse Jackson fans, the majority of Hispanics who are content and then la raza, the majority of whites who are happy and then klan, the majority of women who are mostly content then you have (modern) feminists. And so on.

    I think it’s good that they’ve have largely isolated themselves from the general community and self-identified themselves as irrational bigots so we can more easily ignore them. Otherwise they might actually have some power and more people might be tricked in to thinking they have valid points.

  • Friendly says:

    With all due respect, you couldn’t be more wrong.

    While I will agree that the majority of transgendered individuals are accommodating what are certainly deep-seated brain issues, there do exist “intersex” people who confound your casual declarations. These are people born with *both* organs. A “boy” born with a penis… but also with ovaries, female hormones, etc. Or “girls” born with vaginas but testes, etc. This isn’t a case of “it’s all in their heads,” it’s an actual physical deformity that comes with serious physical and psychological problems, not all of which can be remedied with surgery (although, unlike typical transgendered individuals, these problems are usually– although not always– identified at birth, or at least by the onset of puberty).

  • WayneB says:

    Friendly, hermaphrodites are a microscopic subset, and one which was not being addressed by the article. For TRUE sex indeterminism, there are few good answers, though sometimes surgery can allow them to live as wholly one sex or the other, but these are numerically so few that case-by-case handling is the only reasonable solution.

    On the other hand, those who believe they should have been born with the other set of genitalia may be uncomfortable in their lives, but who doesn’t have to deal with hardships of one form or another in their lives? Some of them more difficult than that, and irremediable in any form at present.

  • Jay says:

    Suppose a man wears a woman’s wig and a dress? Does that make him a woman, or just a man disguised as a woman? I vote “B”. Suppose he also puts on a bra and stuffs a couple of rubber balls or some such in it. Now is he a woman? I think not. Suppose he has the rubber balls glued to his chest. Now? Surely not. How much does a man have to alter his appearance to make him look like a woman before he IS a woman? Personally, I’d say there is no point at which a disguise turns into reality. It’s still a disguise.

    Next week we’ll investigate: If you shave all the hair off an ape, does this make him a human being and thus legally entitled to Social Security benefits?

  • POWinCA says:

    Take a dog, cut off its tail, you get a dog without a tail.

    Take a man, cut off his penis, you don’t get a woman. You get a man without a penis.

    You’d think the Y chromosome would be a dead giveaway but they don’t believe in all that DNA and evolution stuff. God made them men who like Perla handbags.

  • SentWest says:

    Yes WayneB, right on.

    I suffer every day because I’m a lithe slender woman with long legs and ballerina quality flexibility stuck in the body of a German/Hungarian peasant woman. I could achieve inner peace if they could take out all my bones and shave them down a bit…

    Everyone’s stuck in their body. Some of us hate it more than others, but at least transgenders get to go under the knife! I’m always going to look like a female linebacker. Dammit.

  • Anon says:

    You guys should be ashamed of yourself. Agenda? Basics in kindergarten?! Put your box full of your fantasized, closed minded ideas about humanity to your hypocritical mind and keep it off the interwebs.

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