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I was reading a post today at Moonbattery about Amnesty International that included this picture:
It also linked to this story from CNS News about yet another ridiculous Gitmo protest:
Amnesty International USA brought a life-sized replica of a Guantanamo Bay prison cell to Washington on Wednesday. But amenities provided to prisoners — bedding, toiletries, a copy of the Koran and three meals a day — were nowhere mentioned.
AIUSA says it timed its Washington, D.C., stop — part of a national tour — to coincide with a House Judiciary subcommittee’s hearing on harsh interrogation techniques.
Dressed in orange jump suits, “chained” together and holding placards that spelled out “Stop Torture,” AIUSA members and other activists staged a rally at the foot of the Washington Monument.
“The purpose is to try to bring to the American people a little bit of the reality of what the United States government is doing to human beings in Guantanamo,” Larry Cox, executive director of AIUSA, told Cybercast News Service.
“We want people to actually see what’s being done in their name, to get a sense of what it means to be held for not just one year or two years, but as many as six years in a box,” he said, “where you can’t move around, where you’re almost totally isolated, where you’re put in stress positions that are extremely painful, when you’re humiliated like that, when you haven’t been charged or tried for any crime.”
Cox’s description of Guantanamo, however, contrasts with other reports of the facilities where individuals suspected of terrorist training and activities have been held since it opened in 2002.
According to Globalsecurity.org, an online security and military database, detainees at Guantanamo are given basic supplies, such as clothing, towels, sheets, blankets, soap, shampoo, toothbrush and toothpaste.
They also are given a copy of the Koran and three “culturally appropriate” meals. Prayer rugs also are distributed, and a recorded call to prayer is broadcast five times a day.
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The cell on display on the Mall is 10 feet long, 7 feet wide and 8 feet tall. It has a toilet, a sleeping bunk and a small window. The AIUSA says it is an example of a Camp 5 cell.
According to Globalsecurity.org, however, Camp 5 is a permanent two-story maximum security complex with cells that measure 10 feet by 20 feet and have a toilet, bed and a sink.
“Those that are considered the most dangerous and those deemed to have the most valuable security are housed there,” the Web site reports.
The Web site also reports that there are a variety of other quarters. Detainees who cooperate with staff and help to develop intelligence are relocated to less restrictive quarters, the Web site reports.
In Camp 1, detainees wear tan uniforms instead of orange ones, and social interaction is allowed, including pairs who can kick soccer balls around. Thirty one percent of detainees at Guantanamo are in Camp 1.
Camp 4 has dormitories that hold up to 20 detainees and detainees are allowed to eat, sleep and pray together. They wear white uniforms, have lockers for personal belongings and common recreation areas for games and team sports. Chess, checkers and cards, the Web site says, are the most requested games.
The “GITMO = TORTURE!!!” meme is old and tired. I think I’ve stayed in motels crappier than Gitmo. What I really wondered about this story, though, had not a whole lot to do with yet another dumb protest of Guantanamo Bay. Yeah, yeah, we get it. We’re not treating the terrorist murderers nicely enough for you liberals. We should be welcoming them into the United States with open arms and absolve them of their crimes, no matter how horrible. Understood.
I saw the picture Van Helsing posted though, and the text gave me a thought. In case it’s tough for anyone to read, here’s what it says on the signs in the picture:
THE WORLD CAN’T WAIT! DRIVE OUT THE BUSH REGIME!
I couldn’t help but read that and wonder… what are these people going to do after Bush? I mean, he’s got less than a year left as President. He’ll step down. A new President will step up. America will still be in tact. There will be no massive takeover, no shredding of the Constitution, no last-ditch effort to hold on. The “Bush regime” will come to an end.
How are these people going to handle that??
There are so many lefties who are absolutely consumed with hatred of W. Once he’s out of office and there’s no one left to hate, what are they going to do with themselves? There’ll be no more need for protesting the “Bush regime”. There’ll be no more reason to carry on with BDS. It’ll be over. And I can’t help but think that these lefties who hate W will be massively disappointed that their conspiracy theories weren’t true. It seems to me like these people were enjoying their misery these past eight years thoroughly. It probably makes them feel so important to carry on with all of these protests, so sophisticated to deny America and align themselves with terrorists and their appeasers. They get attention for their stunts. And with Bush out of office, all of that will go away.
I can only imagine the emptiness these people will feel, especially if Obama gets the Presidency… because with McCain they can continue on with their merry charade, bleating feebly about how this is really Bush’s third term, and Karl Rove is behind the whole thing anyways, and by the way, have they told you about Halliburton conspiring with the Jews to take out Palestine?
These are the type of people who absolutely thrive on bad news. They want everything to be going to hell, because then they get to protest and perform. When things aren’t going badly, they have to create an alternate reality where everything is horrible and it’s up to them and their humanitarian, leftist goodness to come in and save the day. Aw.
So, I’d imagine that they’d be terribly disappointed if their guy wins, because then, their entire existence will be erased. They’ll have their Marxist President, and everything they’ve been working towards will likely happen.
The question is, what then? After the “Bush regime” has been driven out, what are these idiots going to do? My guess is, they’ll probably do one of two things. They’ll either keep protesting about nothing the way they have been for the past eight years, claiming that McCain’s presidency is really just a shadow presidency and that Bush is still in charge. OR, they’ll sit around, soaking in their nostalgia, wishing for the good ‘ole days when they had a reason to feel important.
Kind of sad either way.
I like the way the people who partake in these anti-U.S. costume parties wear masks/hoods. Seems they want to make themselves think they are really “out there” on the world’s cutting edge, risking all for The Cause, and must disguise their faces to avoid the Bushitler-Cheney torture squads.
I wonder how many of these “bold” demonstrators took to the streets over the grisly beheadings, genital mutilations, etc. carried out by the “poor victims” they seem to love so much. The answer to that query tells me all I need to know about their supposed love of human rights.
1) No, they won’t be disappointed if Obama wins. They will be happy because Obama will operate with the type of destiny these people want – destruction of the US.
2) I do agree that it is wrong to hold people without confronting them with their crimes. But that disagreement does not contain one piece of data on how I think they should be confronted with those crimes. Even if suspected of a crime, confronting the suspected with that is better than not at all. Why? Basic human rights include the right to be confronted with the crimes one is accused of. Just because those that are being accused may not believe in those rights does not take away those rights. The need to protect the innocent is very important because otherwise those who would instill fear and control over the innocent will use such power to trap the innocent leaving only the criminals free.
Shannon: One minor point. The prisoners at Gitmo aren’t criminals in the conventional sense. They are held there not as punishment, but to keep them off the battlefield while the military extracts any actionable intelligence from them. They’re where they are for OUR protection & interests, not theirs. Gitmo is a POW camp, not a jail.
Gitmo would not have existed 50 years ago. Instead, the illegal combatants there would have been shot by firing squad after the battle was over.
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