Minister claims people are not human unless they are loved

Minister claims people are not human unless they are loved

It seems that a human is not a human unless a condition is met to the pro death crowd.   I read a link from Life News that just made no sense.

In the book, Aborting Aristotle: Examining Fatal Fallacies in the Abortion, pro-life author Dave Sterrett said he met a Presbyterian minister who believed a baby isn’t truly a person until he or she has been loved. “A Presbyterian minister in my city once said that he would support his teenage daughter to get an abortion. When another pastor asked him, ‘When do you believe a human person begins to exist?’ The Presbyterian minister replied, ‘I think someone becomes a person when they are loved.'”

What? Someone becomes a person when they are loved? This anecdote is rather disturbing on many levels. Sadly, this is not surprising considering the stance of the denomination this pastor was ordained in.

This is a fascinating view on personhood, especially coming from a Christian religious leader who is supposed to give the most weight to what God says about the matter. However, the minister’s comments are not all that surprising considering the official stance of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) on abortion, which is that “the considered decision of a woman to terminate a pregnancy [by abortion] can be a morally acceptable, though certainly not the only or required, decision.”

Murder is morally acceptable? Really? I did a little checking and this gets worse. Perhaps the biggest irony is that this same church which states publically that they condemn the death penalty. It is a shame that this fervor is not also being spent on the unborn.

This is the official position of the Presbyterian Church USA and the lack of scriptural support is duly noted:

When an individual woman faces the decision whether to terminate a pregnancy, the issue is intensely personal, and may manifest itself in ways that do not reflect public rhetoric, or do not fit neatly into medical, legal, or policy guidelines. Humans are empowered by the spirit prayerfully to make significant moral choices, including the choice to continue or end a pregnancy. Human choices should not be made in a moral vacuum, but must be based on Scripture, faith, and Christian ethics. For any choice, we are accountable to God; however, even when we err, God offers to forgive us.

And then there is this policy statement:

The 217th General Assembly (2006) reiterated the role of the church in individual and families lives as they face problem pregnancy issues.

The church has a responsibility to provide public witness and to offer guidance, counsel, and support to those who make or interpret laws and public policies about abortion and problem pregnancies. Pastors have a duty to counsel with and pray for those who face decisions about problem pregnancies. Congregations have a duty to pray for and support those who face these choices, to offer support for women and families to help make unwanted pregnancies less likely to occur, and to provide practical support for those facing the birth of a child with medical anomalies, birth after rape or incest, or those who face health, economic, or other stresses.

Practical support including late term abortions? No that is not supporting, encouraging or loving those in need.  I have found that one of the hardest things about being a Christian is grace and loving one another. The beatitudes (also known as the Sermon on the Mount) set a very high standard and I will readily admit to failing this standard on a daily basis. I do pray daily (hourly) for forgiveness and get up and try again and again. And I fail down repeatedly but that is part of my growing pains. I learn from sermons, commentaries and of course the Word of God and try to apply the lessons I learn to my life and walk with the Lord. I do not write this happily, gleefully or maliciously but from a broken heart and a stunned, appalled, and frankly just bewildered spirit.

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  • Rick Caird says:

    The really, really strange thing about this is the nonsensical claim that my humanity depends on someone else and how they feel about me. So, if we can convince everyone else to stop loving this minister, then we can kill him with impunity because he is not human. Weird argument.

    The worst thing that happened to the Presbyterian Church was when the UPC and PCUS merged. The Northern, liberal church, got control and I assume forced a number of people into the PC in America or to other denominations.

    • Gail Boer says:

      Rick the argument is creepy and the logic of abortion being moral is just baffling. Regarding the exodus from the PCUSA, the OPC and BPC left about 50 years before the merger and the PCA was founded in 1967 when the PCUS and UPC were not yet merged but yes there is a steady and orderly exodus that has been going on for about 80 years. It accelerated in the 70’s and 80’s and the extremism is coming to the forefront. Then again I am OPC so i am slightly biased. 🙂

  • Elizabeth Wise says:

    This is why I no longer attend the Presbyterian church. The total lack of obedience to God’s word gets worse and worse. I left a lot of friends behind. I love them and miss them.

    • Gail Boer says:

      There are quite a few non PCUSA options out there that are bible believing Reformed churches. The mainline denomination is just lost at this point,

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