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Someone grab the smelling salts, stat. Last night, for the sole Vice-Presidential Debate with Governor Tim Walz, Senator J.D. Vance chose to wear a PINK tie and it has set the country talking. Yes, many important subjects were waved away or not brought up last night. Some subjects were pointless. Whatevs! J.D. Vance’s choice of neckwear is getting lots of comments. So, let’s talk about that darn “PINK” tie.
This shirt/tie combo has made the Left go Nucking Futz.
JD Vance is breaking the 4th Wall so hard I feel like I’m watching The Office. pic.twitter.com/DW6bjEtAE2
— Robert Griffin III (@RGIII) October 2, 2024
Breaking the Fourth Wall to connect with the audience was important. BUT, Lord a mercy, that pink tie with those blue eyes against the deeper blue background. Yass. The List found this was a “fashion fail”:
So the only debate left before the 2024 election is the one happening between vice presidential picks Governor Tim Walz and Ohio senator JD Vance. And in that debate, Vance, who was Trump’s left field pick, is being taken to task about his debate choices — specifically, his decision to wear a pink tie.
The criticism came hard and fast. “JD Vance’s tie is ALL WRONG,” wrote one person on X, formerly known as Twitter. Another wrote, “JD Vance’s tie is one of the ugliest I’ve ever seen.”
Then there is some debate as to what shade of pink it really is. One person noted, “You have me wondering about my TV settings as I’m seeing that as magenta, not neon pink.” However, there’s no denying it’s definitely more pink than any other color. Plus, if you look closely, you can see that there is a subtle pattern to Vance’s tie, which is also getting a reaction. “I applaud JD Vance for his comparative sartorial daring in selecting a lightly patterned tie,” wrote one person. Another said, “It looks like Vance’s tie was made out of my senior prom dress.”
Tie color, fabric and knot style are less than important to our future as a Republic. Let’s have some juicy, educational goss anyways. Educational about men’s fashions, that is.
THE TIE COLOR
I believe Vance did choose his neckwear to acknowledge that October 1 commences Breast Cancer Awareness Month. Pink is the color for Breast Cancer.
depending on the camera, lighting and angle, it comes off pink, mauve, raspberry or cranberry. Don't care. i am going with pink.
— Toni Williams (@toniknxvll) October 2, 2024
Fashionistas can get too picky:
I’m more bothered by Vance’s lack of a tie dimple in the knot. I feel like it’s a good face-framing device and “ties” the suit together.
— Scott Z-Man (@greeneyes_scott) October 2, 2024
Yes, a tie dimple can zhuzh up a look. But, it’s like having a perfect break in your trouser leg. It could also be a symbol you spend too much time on your clothes and not enough time on your political philosophy.
I like the tie for its not to Breast Cancer Awareness month, the texture, the tone on tone and the PINK. Dimple or no, I like it/
TIM WALZ FRIENDSHIP BRACELET
Tim Walz is only 60, but he looks much older. Some men can be 90 years of age and wear a tatty bracelet and make it work. The men I know wear memorial bracelets or paracord bracelets. Not Taylor Swift Friendship Bracelets.
.@Tim_Walz wore friendship bracelets on the debate stage and we're trying to play it cool with the best of them! #SwiftiesForKamala #VPDebate2024 pic.twitter.com/9yZfvTi3nA
— Swifties For Kamala (@Swifties4Kamala) October 2, 2024
Or, maybe his kids made them for him and that would be the coolest thing that “knucklehead” has ever done.
ONE FINAL REFLECTION
The body language screamed in the debate. J.D. Walsh broke the fourth wall and engaged us. Tim Walz looked like he was going to stroke out at times. What stood out to me came at the commercial break at 54 minutes. Tim Walz went to the fig leaf position. J.D. Vance went to attention and then parade rest. As the daughter of a Marine and Mother and Aunt of Army Soldiers, what did Walz do in the Army for 28 years? Was he a shitbag the whole time? Don’t answer I already know.
There you go. Other soldiers say he's a shitbag. So guess what? He's a shitbag. He's the ate up fuck up we knew he was. https://t.co/quF3rrznUA
— King James⚔️ (@F34RtheEND) September 2, 2024
Featured Image: NAACP/X/Cropped/Widely Distributed
GWB says: That is NOT pink! It is mauve. Or maybe burnt umber. No, wait, that’s the orangish brown crayon. It’s magenta! Yeah, that’s it! Magenta.
GWB says: Did you intend to duplicate your own tweet there, Toni?
Also…
“It looks like Vance’s tie was made out of my senior prom dress.”
Wow, you must have had an ugly prom dress. It looks good as a tie.
(Sorry, but that statement was just looking for a brush back.)
And, for many men, the fact Vance would wear a pinkish tie means he has plenty of self-confidence. He is “comfortable in his masculinity.” 😉
Toni Williams says: Oops. I fixed it. It was about the lack of a tie dimple.
I’m more bothered by Vance’s lack of a tie dimple in the knot. I feel like it’s a good face-framing device and “ties” the suit together.
— Scott Z-Man (@greeneyes_scott) October 2, 2024
When I had my first suit tailored (entering the college educated job market), the haberdasher had to educate me on color and pattern combinations. When you are wearing a dark suit, you need to have a contrasting color accessory (shirt, ties, used to be a pocket handkerchief but that’s not so popular these days). Also when wearing an unpatterned coat, you need a patterned accessory. Vance had a good haberdasher (or at least an “old school” one – yes, even men’s fashions can change over 40+ years).
Following these rules draw the eye, and make you look more interesting and intelligent.
By the way, Walz’s outfitting perfectly matched his personality – dull and ignorant.
Charlie says: I know this is a little [lot!] off topic but, how many days did Walz serve on active duty. Our DNC operatives with bylines are curiously incurious. I by no means take away from the value added to our services by guardsmen and reservists but, I am just curious by nature. Obviously the 4 years Vance served in the Marine Corp was by default almost all active duty. Lets say 1200 active duty days, conservatively. By contrast, 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks every year, the Guard minimum requirement, works out to 360 days total active duty service over a 24 year period. While it is certainly impressive to be able to say you served for 24 years, not quite so impressive to say you actually served about 400 days active duty, less than your opponent, eh what?. Again, just curious. If only his retirement papers contained such information ;>}
Toni Williams says: Well done. You are right.
I don’t know about the Guard – but you can’t calculate Marine Corp Reserves that way.
Some of the “weekends” are actually three or four days when they’re doing a field training exercise. Others are really not full days, such as Family Day, or the day of the Ball (that one is mostly dress uniform checks, “advice” about appropriate behavior, and rehearsals for that year’s Color Guard).
Now, my son probably has a bit more than half of that 400 duty days, thanks to a deployment to San Diego during CoViD to babysit recruits through their quarantine before they went into actual training. Something he never, ever, wants to do again…
Cameron says: OK, that’s a story I’d like to hear.
Just consider that boot is a finely honed process, with facilities to match.
Barracks have open bays, that the fire watch can see every last bunk – and a DI can walk through in less than two minutes to check. Motel has two recruits to a room, and many more exits on the building.
Those massive bags of hormones can be exercised to exhaustion and not able to get up to as much trouble; plenty of room for PT on base. No such room in and around the motel.
Most importantly, there were NO DIs there – couldn’t have them possibly exposed and out of pocket for weeks. Only the “regular” NCOs that weren’t trained to apply the more rigid discipline regimen.
At least the female recruits were in a different facility. Now THAT would have been an absolute nightmare.
One good thing from that experience, I think – he’ll never accept a DI position if it is offered. He has the right combination of discipline and empathy to be an excellent NCO, but would be a terrible DI, in my opinion.
Cameron says: Former Marine here. I can still smell the squad bays in my mind. -:-)
And yeah; becoming a DI is an honor for a very select group of men and women with a particular mindset.
GWB says: Oh, wow. That does sound like a nightmare. I’m glad he came through it alright. Potential for some career-ending baloney in that situation.
GWB says: He was “full-time Guard” for some portion of that, as a senior NCO. One of the complaints I’ve heard is that he was also holding down a full-time civilian job and wasn’t really full-time at the Guard. That full-time changes the calculation, though, and I think – if you were merely comparing days served* – Vance would come out on the short end of the stick.
(* I wouldn’t. Your commitment is honorable, IMO, no matter how long you served. As long as you served what you signed up for. I don’t think Walz did. But, I otherwise honor folks who did one term and guys who made a full career of it.)
Hmm. I wouldn’t be sure of that, GWB. Like I said, I don’t know the Guard. But my son’s entire Reserve company has two full-time officers, and three full-time NCOs. One CSM and two administrative types.
Now, Walz supposedly served as a CSM for some period of time, even though he never finished the school. But how long was that for?
Yes, honorable service is honorable service, whether it is one hitch in the Guard, or a career in a combat branch. But honorable service is service to the COUNTRY. Walz was serving only HIMSELF – at least for a large part of the time.
GWB says: He was actually a senior NCO for some number of years. Command Sergeant Major has 2 ranks below it that qualify for the “senior NCO” name.
IF he was full-time Guard, I believe he was paid on a civilian (gov’t) scale for the everyday days and I know those count toward retirement. But I don’t know if they count in any way (if they do, it’s probably a fraction of a regular day) toward military retirement. (I only know about full-time Guard at all because I was trying to get hired once.)
You are correct about Walz tainting everything he did with the bailout at the end of his service.
Cameron says: The desperation to make Walz look good from his debate performance is funny to watch.
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