Anti-Vaxx Imbeciles are Becoming Nastier

Anti-Vaxx Imbeciles are Becoming Nastier

Anti-Vaxx Imbeciles are Becoming Nastier

If you are an anti-vaxx shitheel, you may want to close your eyes, so your tender labia do not get bruised, because I am about to get offensive.

Frankly, I’ve had just about enough of parents who received their medical “degrees” from Google University, who have decided to endanger the lives of their own kids with wholly preventable diseases such as measles, chicken pox, and whooping cough. These are the contemptible twatapotami (the Karens of the world who demand to speak to a manager to air their supercilious grievances) who have decided that they have the “right” to send their unvaccinated spawn to schools and other public spaces and endanger others who may have legitimate reasons for not getting vaccinated – reasons that do not include paranoid, ignorant, tin-foil hat-wearing turds making bad decisions on their behalf.

Lately, anti-vaxx movement has gotten nastier.

In September they forced the resignation of Dr. Jennifer Kent, the Director of California’s Department of Health Care Services after she rightfully slammed the ignorance of anti-vaxx dildoes who were protesting bills that crack down on medical exemptions for the vaccines children must have before starting school.

But that’s not all, folks!

Squawking Karens of the world, raising their crotch fruit on hemp smoothies and eschewing non-organic produce, while worshiping at the altar of ugly shoes and vegan “leather,” have ramped up their anti-vaxx campaigns to not only endanger their own children and spread misinformation on the Internet, but also to abuse, malign, and attack other parents and their children who encourage vaccinations.

The anti-vaxx harassment campaigns have gotten so extreme, that parents who are working to combat the reams of misinformation about vaccination, are hiding their identities in fear. A woman who recently lost her little boy to the flu experienced just such intimidation, and apparently nothing is considered too cruel.

Interviews with mothers who’ve lost children and with those who spy on anti-vaccination groups, reveal a tactic employed by anti-vaxers: When a child dies, members of the group sometimes encourage each other to go on that parent’s Facebook page. The anti-vaxers then post messages telling the parents they’re lying and their child never existed, or that the parent murdered them, or that vaccines killed the child, or some combination of all of those.

[…]

Some anti-vaxers told her she’d murdered Jude and made up a story about the flu to cover up her crime. Others said vaccines had killed her son. Some called her the c-word.

The worst ones — the ones that would sometimes make her cry — were the posts that said she was advocating for flu shots so that other children would die from the shots and their parents would be miserable like she was.

Aisha Odom – another woman who has been encouraging parents to vaccinate their children to protect individuals with compromised immune systems like her brother, who is unable to receive certain vaccines – has been the target of a concerted Facebook intimidation campaign from vicious anti-vaxx ignorami, who have been telling her to kill herself, lobbing the N-bomb in her direction, and calling her other choice monikers that people like me use on a regular basis, but by which people like Odom would probably be repulsed.

And Odom is not the only one.

Vaccine advocates – even those who have lost their children – have received threatening messages, taunts, and comments that would make any decent human being cringe.

I don’t even care that your child died. I am glad mine is alive and doesn’t have autism. Have a good day and do more research. Go confront someone whose child was disabled from a vaccine. You wont [sic.] be saying the same thing.

[…]

SLUT. PHARMA WHORE.

[…]

I feel sorry for the lost baby and her other children but someone needs to inject her with vaccines until she dies.

[…]

I hope they stone you to death when the truth comes out. I’ll make a special trip to happily watch your head crack. The parents of the children you are destroying should each get a chance. Like a nazi pinata.

And this is only a sampling of messages and comments mothers who advocate for vaccines on social media have received. Apparently anti-vaxx fuckknuckles believe they are entitled to allow their diseased crotch goblins to endanger unwitting others, but dog forbid someone provides information on social media that allows others to make informed decisions! Those “monsters” need to be abused and threatened. They must be silenced!

Why?

Because they are the strongest advocates for vaccinations – advocates who have experienced personal loss and who can attest to the grief and agony of losing a loved one to a disease that could have been prevented by vaccinations!

Larry Cook, the founder of Stop Mandatory Vaccination, doesn’t bother to deny that his members attack mothers who have lost their children. Indeed, he seems to minimize them and engages in whataboutism to excuse the behavior. paying mere lip service to “decorum.”

“I do not condone violent behavior or tone and encourage decorum during discussion,” Cook wrote, adding that anyone “who deliberately engage[s] in the politics of advocating for compulsory vaccination where children may be further damaged through government vaccine mandates can expect push back and resistance, alongside knowledgable [sic.] discussions about vaccine risk in social media commentary.”

Cook said some of the more than 160,000 members of his group have been targets of “harassment campaigns,” and that “police have actually showed up at my members’ doorsteps.”

And this, in his mind, apparently excuses attacks on grieving parents, while another anti-vaxx dunce claims his organization has been infiltrated by impostors – likely vaccination advocates who are trying to discredit anti-vaxx lunatics, as if these jackwagons needed any help with that.

As the anti-vaxx movement grows thanks, in part, to the planned release of a sequel to disgraced, repugnant British fraud Andrew Wakefield’s anti-vaccination film led by none other than America’s environmentalist nutjob conspiritard Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

Vaxxed II: The People’s Truth will be premiered on 6 November in 50 venues across America. Its producers, led by Robert F Kennedy Jr, are keeping locations secret with tickets sold quietly in advance in the hope of foiling efforts to block the movie.

From 7 November, the film will be taken on the road in the same “Vaxxed” bus that was deployed in 2016 to disseminate the original film, traveling more than 50,000 miles from coast to coast of the US. The movie was a powerful propaganda tool for the anti-vaccination movement, which has seen a surge in recent years within certain religious communities and among parents worried about scientifically unproven so-called “vaccine injuries”.

Worse yet, it seems like some anti-vaxx cockwombles are turning into outright terrorists. An anti-vaxx jizz bubble in Australia recently claimed that she would “help” children coming to trick-or-treat develop natural immunity by infecting Halloween candy with her sick son’s chicken pox. Police are investigating, but someone tell me how this sow hasn’t been charged with making terrorist threats to use a biological weapon!

Let’s put aside the fact that she’s part of the Stop Mandatory Vaccination group that supposedly advocates for parents to have a choice about whether to vaccinate their kids or not, but she is threatening to take away that choice from others.

Let’s put aside that if she did this, she would be putting kids with compromised immunities at risk.

Let’s ignore the fact that chicken pox on a lollypop would thankfully be unlikely to infect anyone since the virus has a hard time surviving on surfaces.

Let’s focus on the fact that this psychotic twatmold is threatening other people’s children with biological terrorism. Why has she not been taken into custody? Instead, she doubled down on Facebook as if she was bringing the Sermon on the Mount to the unsuspecting Great Unwashed! “…I’m offering life long immunity for the price of a couple of blisters and a few days off school,” she wrote.

Look, if you want to remain paranoid and ignorant and endanger your own crotchfruit with completely preventable diseases, keep them the hell home. Don’t read the reams of scientific research that confirms there is no provable link between vaccinations and autism. Ignore the plethora of research that reveals there is a genetic cause to autism and toss the research that identifies 184 separate genes implicated in the condition. And please go ahead and deny the scientific evidence that measles actually weakens your immune system and will make your children vulnerable to other diseases.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention; Wikimedia Commons

Go ahead and watch them suffer, give them homeopathic garbage treatments as their little lungs give up after they cough so hard that they vomit or break ribs. Watch them die of the flu, aching, feverish and miserable, because you were too stupid to take a simple precaution as you irrationally squealed about “Big Pharma.”

We cannot stop you, and unfortunately, your brand of child abuse is legal. But once you start threatening, harassing, and intentionally infecting others who rely on herd immunity to keep healthy, all bets are off.

You do not have the right to threaten others with biological agents. You do not have the right to threaten grieving parents. You do not have the right to torment others with your ignorance.

You have the right to be a moron. You do not have the right to intimidate and bully others, your efforts to do so should be cause for decent human beings to shun you, and any attempt to willfully expose others to your diseased twat urchins and endanger their lives should be punishable under the law.

And if your or someone else’s kid dies because of your delusional paranoia and refusal to take simple steps to protect them, you should be tossed in jail, and your ability to reproduce should be forcibly removed, you psychotic, murderous, shit weasels!

 

Featured photo courtesy of: Nellis Air Force Base, 99th Aerospace Medical Squadron Public Health Office; cropped, resized

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Marta Hernandez is an immigrant, writer, editor, science fiction fan (especially military sci-fi), and a lover of freedom, her children, her husband and her pets. She loves to shoot, and range time is sacred, as is her hiking obsession, especially if we’re talking the European Alps. She is an avid caffeine and TWD addict, and wants to own otters, sloths, wallabies, koalas, and wombats when she grows up.

39 Comments
  • liz says:

    Jesus. You’re not really expecting a reasonable discussion of cost/benefit analysis after that diatribe are you?
    It’s quite an excluded middle fallacy land rant, either you’re a crazed anti-vaxxer and don’t want any vaccines…and attack and threaten people, or they should all be mandatory. How many people have been killed by chickenpox? Oh…wait, just to ask that question I must be advocating biowarfare! There has been an emergence of shingles in adults since they started these mandatory vaccines, and shingles is a much worse affliction but hey don’t question, if you do you’re obviously an anti vaxx shyteheel.

    • Darleen Click says:

      Just a correction of fact here; if you look at the epidemiology of shingles, the only people who come down with it are people who have had chickenpox. Shingles is the re-activation of the chickenpox virus already present in a person’s body. What happens is that one’s own immunity to chickenpox that happened as a child fades as a person ages; and if that immunity is not given a “boost” by being exposed to chickenpox in the environment (think parents & grandparents coming into contact with their kids suffering from chickenpox), the risk of shingles grows.

      The only tie to the chickenpox vaccine and shingles is that since more kids do not come down with it, adults who suffered chickenpox as children now do not naturally get an immunity boost.

      There are shingles vaccines that will help those adults.

      I didn’t have chickenpox as a kid – I got it in my 30s after taking care of my own kids who had come down with the chickenpox (mid-1980s). Now we are all at risk of shingles as time marches on. Adults who have never experienced chickenpox will not get shingles.

      Just thought I put this out for the record.

      • liz says:

        “and if that immunity is not given a “boost” by being exposed to chickenpox in the environment (think parents & grandparents coming into contact with their kids suffering from chickenpox), the risk of shingles grows.
        The only tie to the chickenpox vaccine and shingles is that since more kids do not come down with it, adults who suffered chickenpox as children now do not naturally get an immunity boost.”

        True. It is an example of an indirect consequence of mandatory vaccines. Maybe this cost (increased incidence of shingles) is worth the gains (no more chickenpox). But we didn’t exactly get to vote on it. Do we know the indirect consequences of all vaccines? A child today receives about 70 vaccine doses before he’s 18…compared to the half dozen or so doses I received as a child, an over a 10-fold increase. 
        I don’t know of anyone who objects to voluntary vaccination, or thinks it is a bad thing. I don’t know anyone who objects to mandatory vaccination for truly deadly diseases.
        I only know people who question the potential consequences of mandatory vaccinations en masse for so many diseases that aren’t really that dire when the cost to gains are weighed. My children were vaccinated (military family). I have one son with tourette’s. It is mild…and the connection never occurred to me before I read the study linked below.
        As a consequence of very frequent moves military families are more likely (IMO) to “cluster” the vaccination series. You’re moving in three weeks and the boys need shots but it will take time to settle, doctor says to just get more now here and so forth. And I’ve been seeing clusters of families not with only one autistic child (usually a son) but two.
        Admittedly, there are probably many environmental reasons why autism has skyrocketed, and anecdotes aren’t data, but when we have tens of thousands of anecdotes of parents who swear they saw the difference right after, one starts to think something must be up. These concerns are not only dismissed, you’re anathema to even question.
        This study is from 2015:
        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4961900/
        Thimerosal exposure and increased risk for diagnosed tic disorder in the United States: a case-control study:
        “In summary, using a hypothesis-testing, epidemiological methodology applied to the VSD database, organic-Hg exposure from TM-containing childhood vaccines was determined to be a significant risk factor for the subsequent diagnosis of TD. Six previous epidemiological studies support this finding (Thompson et al., 2007; Verstraeten et al., 2003; Andrews et al., 2004; Barile et al., 2012; Geier & Geier, 2005; Young et al., 2008). In addition, this study, consistent with previous epidemiological studies, shows a dose dependent effect (i.e., the greater the exposure to Hg, the greater the chances of having a TD diagnosis).”
        TD=tic disorder

        • Doc_Who says:

          Reading this made my IQ drop a few dozen points. Hopefully when you grow up and get your wallabie you will learn how to fact check beyond the .Gov realm. I honestly feel bad for your children their parents dont give a shit about them to use any critical thinking to question the CNN brainwashing.

          • liz says:

            I honestly feel bad for your children their parents dont give a shit about them to use any critical thinking to question the CNN brainwashing

            I was respectful and this response is something beyond a*shole.
            I get it that the internet brings out the a*sholes, but this is beyond the pale.
            You would not say this to my face, you cowardly as*hole.

          • liz says:

            I’m going to assume your doctorate is in Education. You have the reading comprehension level of someone I’d expect had a full eight years of University experience in the education department, just like Jill Biden.
            Although you don’t care about medical articles (as you’ve described they lower your IQ) here is one worth reading:
            Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens
            https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

            This thread should serve as a warning to the owners of this blog. Look who is calling anyone who questions a “terrorist” who should be locked up. This isn’t a slippery slope, it is a bridge to exactly what we are seeing today.
            And yes, I realize there is no way you will allow my comment to see the light of day. But you should noodle on it.

      • Whitney says:

        I’m planning on getting a Tdap at my next doctor’s appointment in December. Diphtheria is going to make a comeback. It was a leading cause of death for thousands of years today we go decades without seeing a case now. These parents in Spain didn’t vaccinate their kids but now they vaccinated the younger one since the older one is probably going to die. That’s a really hard lesson to learn

        https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/spain-s-first-case-diphtheria-28-years-due-lack-vaccination/

      • And wasn’t THAT fun, Darleen!

        I had a young family to support – and NO disability insurance of any kind (working whatever temp jobs came around). Two weeks I was unable to go to work AT ALL – and then another six weeks only part time. (Not the fault of the idiot anti-vaxxers; this was the year before the vaccine was approved. The next two kids damned well got vaccinated.)

        And there I shall stop, before I hammer “liz” right into the ground. This is one subject on which I am actually more vitriolic than Marta.

        • liz says:

          Hammer away…if you can refute the points I made I’d love to hear them.
          So Please refute the study above intelligently. Thanks. Won’t hold my breath.
          Public health clinics offer vaccinations at a pretty affordable price. I recommend finding one in your area.

        • liz says:

          Let’s start with the hepatitis b vaccine newborns receive within the first 24 hours of life. Most people my age have either never gotten the shot, or received it before going into some sort of training the required it (exposure to blood/body fluids).
          The vaccines are required for newborns in case the mother is hepatitis b positive. This is easily screened for and occurs in only about 0.4 percent of the cases.
          These vaccinations are still obligatory during the first day of life, but fortunately they have removed the mercury preservative. I had a couple of children before this was removed. Of course, I never even knew. Nor have they advertised anywhere the quantity of mercury in the vaccination series over a 6 month timeframe which exceeded FDA guidelines for years, could possibly cause harm. It’s just hey yeah…for a while we did but no worries and if you question you’re obviously a hyper emotional anti-science moron, have a good day.

        • liz says:

          Let’s start with the hepatitis b vaccine newborns receive within the first 24 hours of life. Most people my age have either never gotten the shot, or received it before going into some sort of training the required it (exposure to blood/body fluids).
          The vaccines are required for newborns in case the mother is hepatitis b positive. This is easily screened for and occurs in only about 0.4 percent of the cases.
          These vaccinations are still obligatory during the first day of life, but fortunately they have removed the mercury preservative. I had a couple of children before this was removed. Of course, I never even knew. Nor have they advertised anywhere the quantity of mercury in the vaccination series over a 6 month timeframe which exceeded FDA guidelines for years, could possibly cause harm. It’s just hey yeah…for a while we did but no worries and if you question you’re obviously a hyper emotional anti-science moron, have a good day.

          Note to mods: sorry for the duplicate, I typed in the wrong address the first time

          • liz says:

            Correction above, EPA guidelines, not FDA guidelines. Depends entirely on weight (posted the data below in another response).

      • Beans says:

        And you don’t want to get shingles after the age of 50. Trust me. Neuropathy related to shingles is a definite thing and is friggin painful, and may never ever go away.

        Had it on the right upper quadrant of my head. Fortunately it didn’t get my eye, just the eyelids, eyebrow, tearduct and going all the way over the top of my head.

        So now, about every 4-5 minutes, it feels like someone is driving a nail or spike into my eye, or my forehead, or the top of my head, or the back of my head, or all the above.

        You don’t want shingles. Trust me.

        Get the vaccine. It’s worth it at 10 times the price.

    • Charles N. Steele says:

      Anti-vaxxers: people who find it mysterious that we don’t have epidemics of polio and smallpox any more.

      Give them time, I’m sure they can end the mystery by bringing these back.

  • Overgrown Hobbit says:

    either you’re a crazed anti-vaxxer and don’t want any vaccines…and attack and threaten people, or they should all be mandatory

    Exactly. It’s a fake fight. If either concern were real, we’d see mandatory vaccinations of anybody caught inside the U.S. who was here illegally – even if you’re okay with open borders catch and release – and anyone who was imported via refugee resettlement.

    Please, Ms Hernandez, write about Honduran and Somali “crotch goblins” I double dog dare you.

    The other tell is the unwillingness of anyone to discuss or create ways to spread the vaccine load, or to discuss cost-benefit analysis. Posts like this and the Karens just dig in their heels. Posts on how to negotiate with your pediatrician, and what it costs in both time and money, would actually help. I can detail how we managed vaccinations if interested.

    Embrace the healing power of AND. Yes, your government despises you and wants your harm. Yes, it’s lying to you – vaccinations are not an exception. Yes Big Parma is at best amoral and running experiments on us. At worst it’s incompetent and corrupt.

    AND you need some of those vaccines.

  • Jim says:

    I have said before on many sites discussing vaccination that in over 40 years working with disabled children and adults – including just over 2000 autistics – in the USA and Australia as a special educator and behaviour management specialist in schools, with families and in the old institutions I met only one client who had a proven allergic reaction to immunisation as a very young child. He suffered a brain injury leading to mild intellectual impairment and Cerebral Palsy- spasticity. In the vast majority of cases the actual cause of congenital developmental disability is never established. Infantile autism [which runs down the male line in my family] is genetic.

    As for the notional increase in autism: we were always there, but not diagnosed as such. Witness the large number of ‘eccentric’ adults being diagnosed in later life. Up to the 1980s smart little autistic children were frequently diagnosed as childhood schizophrenics. Indeed the old institutions for the ‘retarded’ were full of autistics many of whom were diagnosed as undifferentiated schizophrenics. Diagnosis of autism is now far more likely to occur just because people are looking for it and there are far more skilled diagnostic teams. In the 1970s the rate of autism in children born totally blind was estimated by Fraiberg and Freeman [Psychoanalytic Study of the Child] at 20%, but they were generally not included in numbers of autistics in the community. Another reason is that some people are being diagnosed and included as autistic secondary to other conditions including acquired brain injury consequent on head trauma. In the past we did not diagnose/include such people as autistic as per DSM – III and IV, but simply noted their primary developmental condition/impairment plus autistic-like behaviour.

    Then there has also been the tendency for some inept parents to ‘shop’ for a diagnosis for their child[ren] as autistic just because of difficult behaviour the children are presenting: the increased available funding for autistic children is a tempting ‘honey-pot’ for parents looking for an easy ‘out’ because they have not taught their children to behave appropriately and/or the children are presenting with some other condition, e.g. a developing conduct disorder. Some diagnostic labels are also more acceptable socially for some parents, e.g. a social worker in Virginia once remarked to me that working class families have children who are ‘retarded’, whereas middle/upper class have children who are ‘learning disabled’.

    • liz says:

      “As for the notional increase in autism: we were always there, but not diagnosed as such. Witness the large number of ‘eccentric’ adults being diagnosed in later life. Up to the 1980s smart little autistic children were frequently diagnosed as childhood schizophrenics. Indeed the old institutions for the ‘retarded’ were full of autistics many of whom were diagnosed as undifferentiated schizophrenics.”

      I’m sure that is accurate for years back…but has diagnosis really changed THAT much in only the past decade or so as the numbers have skyrocketed? Autism rates in South Korea are even higher than ours, and there is a big negative stigma to being autistic there.
      At any rate, I’m sure there are a lot of conflating factors. We already know, as a documented fact, our babies were exposed to toxic levels of mercury from mandatory vaccinations containing thimerosal until the law changed in 1999.** And everyone was told then, too, there was nothing to worry about.
      **Infants receiving all of the vaccines were exposed to a cumulative dose of mercury as high as 187.5 micrograms (ug)* by 6 months of age. The cumulative dose exceeded guidelines recommended by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) by a substantial margin (guidelines were 65 ug for 5th percent body weight, up to 106 for 95th percentile)

  • Tim says:

    Every year I am offered a free flew shot. I ask Where do you get the the rotten eggs. What. I would take the shot if they used eggs in my area. But all the rotten eggs they use come from England. Yes Europe. That makes sense.

  • Wang Wei Lin says:

    Dang that was brutal! Loved it. The anti-vaxxers deserve nothing but contempt.

  • Charles N. Steele says:

    The anti-vaccination movement seems to have evolved from pseudo-science into cranky and nasty religion. They are sounding an awful lot like Extinction Rebellion… we’re to give up modern advances and suffer, or be branded as evil and harassed.

    There seems to be a lot of this kind of fanaticism going around. We need a vaccine for it.

    • Cameron says:

      We have one but the government frowns on stupid people getting culled.

    • Marta Hernandez says:

      THIS!

    • Cindy says:

      I have to laugh at the incredible amount of brainwashing and distinct ignorance of most of the people posting comments here.

      There is no science regarding vaccines. It is a religion based on wives’ tales, voodoo and witches’ brews. The production of antibodies does not equate with immunization. Some people never produce antibodies to vaccination yet don’t become infected. The immune system is not well known. In fact, there are more systems involved in the mechanisms of immunity, five as it is now known.

      That diseases like polio and smallpox were diminished has more to do with the fact that they were subdued to a major degree even before vaccines to them were introduced.

      To argue about this is as moot as arguing the tenets of one religion in juxtaposition to another religion. Believe as you will, inject whatever you want to into your bodies and your children ( maybe they will survive, some do), but don’t infringe on my right to the pursuit of love, life and happiness, by forcing your beliefs and toxins on me and my children.

      Naturally, ex-vaxxers get irate when you wish their children dead. If you think they are nasty, just read the very first sentence in this screed to see who is the angry, vile nasty one.

  • Douglas B. Levene says:

    That was a great post. I agree with every word you wrote, including “the” and “and.” I’m sick to death of the anti-vaxxers. They should be grateful, on their hands and knees grateful, that we don’t take their children away from them and throw them in prison. Instead they are harassing and threatening people for telling the truth about vaccinations. Enough. Take their children away and throw them in prison.

    • Marta Hernandez says:

      Thank you, sir! They’re not grateful. They’re disgusting terrorists.

    • liz says:

      Jesus. I guess you can start with the Amish. Why just throw them in jail? How about a scorched earth policy. Like Carthage. Yeah, those anti-vaxxers sure are a bunch of emotional folks. Not like…people who call them all terrorists.

  • Marta Hernandez says:

    It’s amazing to me how many people have kneejerked immediately into effectiveness of vaccines/Big Pharma/big government screeching without actually reading what was written. You want to make your choices and let your children get sick or even die? I suppose it’s legal – at least right now. But once you start threatening, harassing, and intimidating others, or exposing the unwitting to your diseased spawn, you are now infringing on the rights of others and need to be held accountable.

    • Charles N. Steele says:

      Jerusalem Post just published a well done piece on combatting the 2018 NY measles outbreak. Note that anti-vaxxers including “Dr.” Wakefield organized an intensive campaign trying to interfere with these efforts. Anti-vaxxer activists are indeed sociopaths:

      https://m.jpost.com/HEALTH-SCIENCE/How-one-county-scrambled-to-keep-America-measles-free-606873

      • Marta Hernandez says:

        They really are twisted. How do you threaten someone for advocating what they believe – based on scientific research – is a good resources for other parents?

        You never hear of parents who advocate for vaccinations threatening and harassing shitheels who post Wakefield’s garbage, do you?

        • WB says:

          Wow Marta did you actually just say that “You never hear of parents who advocate for vaccinations threatening and harassing shitheels who post Wakefield’s garbage,”?

          You really must have no ability to read your own writing or see that you are a prime example of the pathetic un-Scientific rhetoric that passes for pro-vaccine logic today. It is happening all the time in virtually any forum in which someone dares to tell the truth about Dr. Wakefield NEVER publishing the “vaccines cause Autism” charge he is labeled as doing. But you people talk a lot about science but evidently never actually read what you criticize, because it is right there in black and white for all to see who are willing or desire the truth – he merely said further studies need to be done and for that he, unlike 9 of the other 10 Authors, was relentlessly attacked and demonized.

  • Old NFO says:

    Well said. Anti-vaxxers are turning into terrorists is correct. They cannot fight facts with anything other than emotion, as Andrew Wakefield’s BS has been disproved/refuted, but they just won’t let it go… https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3136032/

    My daughter is a 10+year paramedic, and has religiously gotten both her kids their vaccinations, FWIW.

    • Scott says:

      An added problem is that these individuals make it even tougher on those of us who HAVE to avoid certain vaccinations due to actual medical risks…

  • Chuck says:

    “You do not have the right to intimidate and bully others, your efforts to do so should be cause for decent human beings to shun you…”
    Next paragraph –
    “And if your or someone else’s kid dies because of your delusional paranoia and refusal to take simple steps to protect them, you should be tossed in jail, and your ability to reproduce should be forcibly removed, you psychotic, murderous, shit weasels”

    Seems decent people should shun you.

  • Tommy W says:

    Here is a common disclaimer that appears in virtually all vaccine inserts:

    “This vaccine has not been evaluated for its carcinogenic or mutagenic potentials or impairment of fertility.”

    So just with this alone, being skeptical of vaccines should be the default position for every reasonable person, as nobody knows how many injected poisons their child can handle. Do vaccines cause cancer? There’s lots of kids at St. Jude’s with bald heads that very well could be caused by vaccines or the flu shot. But who knows, since vaccines have never been tested for safety in regards to causing cancer. And sure enough, aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde, polysorbate 80 and many other ingredients are all uncontroversial neurotoxic poisons. What’s more, no aluminum-containing vaccine has ever gone controlled safety studies that involve an inert placebo. (You are welcome to prove me wrong with a peer-reviewed paper.)

  • Tommy W says:

    I’d like to add one more thing, Marta. You seem like an intelligent person. So I want you to consider something. It may in fact be that at least a decent portion of the parents our there who refuse to vaccinate their kids are parents of kids who have health issues. Maybe they’re on the autism spectrum. Or, maybe they have another child who is autistic. Maybe the child has cancer, or type 1 diabetes or some other mitochondrial disorder. Did you know that it wasn’t too many years ago that pediatricians used to refuse to vaccinate kids who had allergies, asthma or any other relatively mild disorder? It’s because these conditions are indicative of a compromised immune system and mitochondria dysfunction.

    I’d like you to read what Julie Gerberding, former director of the CDC and President of Merck’s Vaccine Division, has said….she even confirms that kids with mitochondria disorders are predisposed to vaccine-induced autism:

    “Now, we all know that vaccines can occasionally cause fevers in kids. So if a child was immunized, got a fever, had other complications from the vaccines. And if you’re predisposed with the mitochondrial disorder, it can certainly set off some damage. Some of the symptoms can be symptoms that have characteristics of autism.“

    Thus if an infant is predisposed with a mitochondria disorder, she claims “their cells just can’t make enough energy to keep their brains functioning normally….” just scroll down to the short video interview to hear her speak….https://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/2010/06/30/vaccination-causes-autism-–-say-us-government-merck’s-director-of%C2%A0vaccines/?fbclid=IwAR0W_C3i0f8i0tRh2KL7lxrNkyv8Y7h-ruA6Ri_uMjqc0mungD5muxGyCW0

    So here’s the thing Marta…you have demonized anti-vaxxers…but it may just be that many of these anti-vaxxers have done an extreme amount of homework and actually know the science. I could get into the science with you if you wish — I’ve dug into the literature for many years — I would love to spend some time with you if you are interested. I can point you to some peer reviewed papers that are very damaging to the notion that vaccines are safe.

    But again, the fact is that the gold standard in medicine is to set up a true double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled trials proving efficacy and short-term or long-term safety — yet this has never been done even once with any vaccine, much less with the whole schedule of vaccines, which is now up to 72 doses of 16 vaccines. It’s for this reason that concerned parents who wish keep him their babies safe have every right to be skeptical of vaccines.

  • Cindy says:

    November 6, 2019 —

    “The fact is, the immune system that we know today and the science that we have today has nothing to do with the science of 100 years ago. The science that these people are playing with is 100 year old science and it’s based on what’s called reductionism. You reduce everything to a single variable, antibodies. If the antibodies are up, everything is good. Well, it’s total bullshit. It’s fake science. The reality is the immune system contains the microbiome, the innate system, the interferon system, the adaptive system, and the neural system. These five systems work in a very complex way. And to tell people that your system is the same as your system and your system, is total nonsense. The future of medicine and in fact, thousands of years ago was – is precision and personalized medicine: The right medicine, for the right person, at the right time. Part of this entire thesis is that you should use your brain to make a decision for what you want in your life. Right? It’s called: You make choices. If the state is supposed to make choices for what gets injected into you, where does this begin and end?” — V.A. Shiva Ayyadurai, PhD

  • Don't Care, Can't Make Me says:

    You appropriated my word I created February 2019 on farcecrack for your blaugh. Twatapatamouses are not “Karen’s”, they are rainbozos… be more creative Martha.

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