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Miss Nevada seems to have gotten herself in some hot water with the feminists. Color me not surprised.
It appears that for the sin of advocating that women should take some steps on their own to ensure their own safety while moving about in the world, Miss Nevada is supporting “rape culture” (WTF is that anyway?)
This all started with oxygen thief Rumer Willis (who is none other than the daughter of Demi Moore and Bruce Willis) asking the question:
“Recently “Time Magazine” said 19% of U.S. undergraduate women are victims of sexual assault in college. Why has such a horrific epidemic been swept under the rug for so long and what can colleges do to combat this?”
To which Miss Nevada replied thusly
“I believe some colleges may potentially be afraid of having a bad reputation, and that would be a reason that it could be swept under the rug because they don’t want it to come out into the public but I think more awareness is very important so women can learn how to protect themselves. Myself as a fourth degree black belt, I learned from a young age that you need to be confident and being able to defend yourself and I think that’s something we should start to implement for a lot of women.”
So let me get this straight feminists (*snort* straight feminists—I kill myself) women defending themselves supports “rape culture” and that we should just teach men not to rape. How about we try that. How about we also try getting thieves not to steal, and arsonists not to light fires. You know, because if we just teach them not to do that they won’t.
“I learned from a young age that you need to be confident and being able to defend yourself.” So someone (probably a man) taught Miss Nevada to be confident and defend herself in a world where feminists just want all the bad to just go away. I thought the answer was a great one, because I thought the idea was that women should be assertive, be responsible and strong, and not let their voices be drowned out by the evil of the patriarchy. I thought that sisters were supposed to do it for themselves and that the idea that you need a man to do or not do something was irrelevant?
I guess that only applies to Willis’s sister and her rebellion against the evil patriarchy that is forcing her to keep her bra buddies out of sight. You know, because hanging your sweater stuffers out in the open for all to see while you walk down the streets of New York helps destroy “rape culture.” You can read more of her diatribe here if you can tolerate it, but it is a whole lot of titty talk and really light on the intelligence part. The things I have to do….
The fact that these women who are lighting up Twitter that are so blissfully unaware are the same women that can make the argument that self defense is a bad thing and in the same breath demand that the military allow the wilting lionesses of our society to be Navy SEALs (where they will be learning a WHOLE LOT about self defense, BTW) is breathtaking.
So Self defense = “rape culture” How in the world do you feminists live inside those heads of yours?
My guess is there is plenty of room in there.
Peggy L. says: Okay, I couldn’t get through more than a few sentences of Willis’ mindless twaddle. Your article is spot on, feminists are supposed to be able to defend themselves and not rely on men. So to deride Miss Nevada for speaking up about being able to take care of herself and ignore the fact that some people will always be criminals and do the wrong thing shows exactly how idiotic these women are. They embarrass the female gender enormously. It’s no wonder so many people continue to look at women and think them brainless.
Should boys be taught that rape is wrong, always wrong? Yup, sure should! But not every parent is a good one, and not every son a willing learner, and it’s better to be able to defend yourself, not just from rape, but from any physical attack.
Now, your self defense might be futile: a victim who fights back can still be overpowered, and raped or otherwise assaulted anyway, but not every attempt at self-defense will fail. Some will succeed, and may even put a rapist out of the rape “business” permanently.
GWB says: Which is one reason to allow people to carry firearms (women, in particular). Firearms are the great equalizer – it takes a lot less training and strength and dexterity to shoot an assailant than it does to go Crane on them.
Catherine Wilkinson says: Let’s just let Darwin take care of these think tankers.
Chris in N.Va. says: Brings to mind a decades-old (OK, showing old-dude age here) commercial in the local DC area for Joon Rhee (if I remember correctly) karate(?) studios. Most commercials featured young kids successfully vanquishing their attackers and mugging the tag line, “Nobody bothers me!”
One clever twist was a statuesque model-type strolling down a darkened row-house street with her short, stubby little man-friend. When muggers emerged from a stairwell the lady opened up an industrial-sized can of whoop-you-know–what on them, after which the lady and guy walked away arm in arm with the little guy smiling and saying, “Nobody bothers me!”
Now some feminists would have the ladies curl up and whimper, “Please don’t bother me.” Or the other (whacked-out) lay back and try to enjoy it response???
Wuddah bunch of maroons…
GWB says: Joon Rhee was Bruce Lee’s school. And he was big into that idea that learning martial arts gave you confidence to go do what you will with your life and not let others control you.
mark says: Is there a man out there who’s mother did not tell them to respect women, never hurt one. Yep, all of us. So, tell me how that worked on 100% of the men? So yeah, the rest of us learned not to rape, so did those who do, but guess what, a criminal, does not are what you believe
Dana says: I am sure if you asked any of the feminists you so willingly demonize, you would find that they all support the right of a woman to educate herself on self-defense practices. The issue with her response is not that self-defense for women is wrong, it is that her solution puts the responsibility of rape prevention entirely in the hands of women, who are usually victims rather than instigators. In relation to rape culture – which does exist by the way, take an openminded approach to a google search about it, perhaps try a TedTalk – the problem with her response is that it is post-facto, rather than preventative of the attempted rape in the first place. Many young men who commit sexual assault crimes do not realize that they have done so because of our PROMINENT rape culture. Rape is often thought of as a creeper in a dark alley who attacks a woman and yet there are overwhelming statistics which prove that the majority of rape victims are familiar with or close to their attackers. These young rapists are unaware of their own actions because they do not consider it to be rape. It is not a creepy lowlife in an alley, it is a 13 year old girl’s older brothers friend who is drunk and thinks that she was being flirtatious with him so he enters her bed and uses his significant size advantage against her. More often than not, it is previously someone trusted by the victim. Women in both pornography and regular television and movies are portrayed to enjoy violent, forceful sex so the fact that the girl resists a little bit does not even phase this type of rapist. The thought is that “she just needs to be convinced” and honestly that is repugnant and destructive for both genders. THIS is what rape looks like for most college aged students and it is still extremely harmful and often scarring for the victims. Rape is not something that girls bring upon themselves, it is an act which involves two parties. So when we talk about rape in the terms of “she was raped” rather than “he raped her” we are shifting the blame from the instigator to the victim and this is the same problem that exists in Miss Nevada’s solution. Our solution has become “she should know how to protect herself” rather than “He should be informed that what he is doing to her is rape”. As I said before, these boys who are assaulting women on campuses nationwide do not always realize that what they are doing is assault because there is such a lack of communication and such a misrepresentation of healthy relationships in the media. So it is imperative that these young men and boys are educated on what constitutes sexual assault. Most are not bad people, going out and trying to hurt women, those rapists are the outliers, the exceptions. These young boys are good people who have simply made poor decisions because they were unaware. It should be a dual effort between both men and women in order to reduce sexual assault, which hopefully you all recognize is a horrible tragedy, and to further education on how to stop it before the situation even arises. Your logic about arsonists is fallible because people act based upon personal reasons, we are not programmed to be one thing or another, there is always a back story. And if we can change the backstory for the better in relation to these young men and women, give them a better understanding of what exactly sexual assault is and how to communicate during a situation that you feel you are being assaulted, numbers would undoubtedly decline. Despite the negative bias against women which comes through in your writing, hopefully you can agree that the ultimate goal to reduce rape is a beneficial one.
GWB says: Wow, not a paragraph break anywhere in there. I bet you can give that spiel without taking a breath, too.
Let’s break it down….
The issue with her response is not that self-defense for women is wrong, it is that her solution puts the responsibility of rape prevention entirely in the hands of women, who are usually victims rather than instigators.
Yes. Why is this a problem? Preventing rape is entirely in the hands of the woman – because she is the only one who has responsibility for herself. This is a big problem with feminism – it destroys personal responsibility.
In relation to rape culture – which does exist by the way
Here we go…. Our culture glorifies rape? Really? I’m admittedly somewhat sheltered, but I don’t see it in any of the cultural outlets to which I’m privy, with the exception of certain rap genres.
Many young men who commit sexual assault crimes do not realize that they have done so because of our PROMINENT rape culture.
No. No, no, no. They do so BECAUSE they want to rape someone. They are responsible. NOT the society. Again, why do you want anyone to avoid personal responsibility for their actions?
there are overwhelming statistics which prove that the majority of rape victims are familiar with or close to their attackers.
You’re going to have to source those “overwhelming” statistics, because most statistics on rape used by feminists are crap. They include things like a willingly drunken woman taking a man back to her place and getting naked in bed with him and having sex, then crying rape the next morning. They include crap like men making advances on women (that is, asking them out or complimenting them on their body or looks) being defined as sexual assault. If you’re going to insist on those definitions, then don’t even bother reading the rest of this because you’re too feminist-befuddled to actually use your brain.
Women in both pornography and regular television and movies are portrayed to enjoy violent, forceful sex
Really? Maybe it’s again because I’m sheltered, but I don’t see where this happens in “regular” tv and movies.
Rape is not something that girls bring upon themselves, it is an act which involves two parties.
Funny, but this isn’t what you seem to be saying. But, you are right. So, we are saying that if you equip one of those parties to resist the stupidity of the other party, then the “tango” doesn’t happen. Men become much less enamored of a woman who threatens to and is capable of ripping off their manhood and feeding it to them. Hey, that sounds like it might help deflate that “rape culture” you keep mentioning.
Our solution has become “she should know how to protect herself” rather than “He should be informed that what he is doing to her is rape”.
No, no, no. You keep making this a mutually exclusive arrangement. It isn’t.
So it is imperative that these young men and boys are educated on what constitutes sexual assault.
That *could* be because of the bullshit education that feminists have pushed for the last couple of decades. It also could be the feminist trashing of chivalry that has gone on for almost half a century now.
These young boys are good people who have simply made poor decisions because they were unaware.
Uh, no. If they raped someone (not statutory rape with a “willing” underage girl) they didn’t simply make a poor decision. They committed an unlawful, evil act. You want to push this off on “rape culture” instead of simply holding people to account for their individual actions.
Your logic about arsonists is fallible because people act based upon personal reasons, we are not programmed to be one thing or another, there is always a back story.
This doesn’t even make sense. I mean in a grammatical fashion or a logical one.
how to communicate during a situation that you feel you are being assaulted
Look, if you’re actually being assaulted (not simply having some guy come on to you), then I think a knee to the groin communicates that very clearly. Do you deny the power of non-verbal communication?
Despite the negative bias against women which comes through in your writing
ROFL! There is NOT a negative bias against women in any of Dejah’s writing. There IS a negative bias against idiots and those who have had their brains corrupted by post-modernist teaching, rendering them incapable of coherent, intelligent thought.
Sarah says: Your dissection of her fairly compelling and well-argued comment would be funny if it wasn’t so infuriating. I think it’s incredible that a surprising amount of people believe that women are responsible for preventing sexual assaults against them. While I have never experienced a sexual assault, I have a concerning amount of friends who have, and no amount of physical resistance helped them.
I also have problems with your skewed perception of feminists–this goes for the author as well. Only acknowledging a certain subgroup of people who identify as feminists intentionally misrepresents them. I also don’t understand why the idea of a straight feminist is hilarious. You should also consider that male feminists exist as well–feminism does not exclude men. I identify as a feminist but that does not require that I hate men, let my leg and armpit hair grow out, or insist on being single and angry my whole life. On the contrary, I’m generally a very happy, friendly person and am in a loving relationship with a wonderfully tall man.
This ended up being a lot longer than I intended, but I think many people would appreciate it if you tried to keep an open mind about people’s beliefs–and maybe educate yourself on the tenets of feminism. Here’s a link that, while very basic, could help you: http://www.colorado.edu/Sociology/Mayer/Contemporary%20Theory/Feminist%20Theory_files/frame.htm
Nina says: No… if her solution was that it was entirely in a woman’s purview to prevent a rape – then she would’ve said so straight out. What she said was . . women need to be aware. I take that entirely to mean that women need to be proactive and aware of the situations they find themselves in whether it is walking to and from class/library, going to parties, walking to car/subway/etc after work . . we need to be aware.
As to your comment about men/boys/young men unaware that what they’ve committed is rape… there is so much disingenuousness with that statement that I hardly know where to start. Unless that man/boy/young man is truly evil, he would definitely know if he stepped over the boundaries of consent – NO MATTER THE SITUATION. Rape is an act of power. It is not a sexual act. It is an act of power over another person
Rape is definitely not something a lady or young girl brings upon themselves. But rape also DOES NOT involve two parties in the way you mean. There will always be a rapist and a victim. Period.
And to echo GWB … rape is a cultural norm?? Not in my culture? Nor in the culture of anyone I know across this country.
The ignorance of “young boys are good people who have simply made poor decisions because they were unaware.” is NOT an excuse for their actions in any way shape or form.
One last thing: No really really REALLY does mean NO. There are no shades of gray in this. If someone says NO or STOP – then do so. Instead of holding a freaking discussion as to “oh hey – maybe you can’t do that because that might mean you are going to sexually assault me, and then discuss the pros/cons of it” Lets keep it to the very simple fact that NO does mean NO. N. O.
I adopt some feminist ideals, but I don’t think it’s promoting rape culture to practice self defense. Of course we need to dig into the psyche of those that rape and commit other crimes against another person, but it’s better to know how to defend yourself should something happen.
Eric says: I’m late to this party, but the Feminazis are just reaping what they’ve sown. Years ago they adopted a “Sexual morality” that came straight out of the porno industry, and now they’re Shocked, Shoked! (to quote from “Casablanca”) that many men nowadays see women as little more than a penis recepticle, or, to put it even more crudely, a Cum Dumpster (to cite Tom Wolfe). Porno teaches men (and maybe some women, too) that mindless, anonymous sex is the way to go and that the only thing that matters is the pure physical pleasure of the act.
The feminists might then say “But you need consent, too”. Fine. But you’ve locked the door after the horse is gone. A guy who’s been conditioned by the porno industry (which, as noted, has pretty much set America’s sexual standards, and especially among the “Progressive” set) to see the female of the species as a piece of meat is not likely to be too persuaded by “Sensitivity” training.
Or, to put it another way – Colleges can’t keep celebrating these “Sex Weeks” on campus, often featuring prostitutes, porn stars, lessons on bondage, etc., then complain when their students act like they’re at a 4 year long Roman orgy …
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