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oh arlen. you are simply an opportunistic, morally bankrupt coward.
it’s time to seriously clean house. dltdhyotwo rino.
Rope says: AMEN.
micky says: Moonbats.
Dont get too excited.
If anyone thinks he switched because the republican party is not what it used to be the next argument will be that the same applies to the democratic party.
You may be that much closer to a filibuster proof majority but you can bet money that the next election will transfer power in congress. Your numbers are the worst in history.
Take into account that Spector has usually been a pretty moderate con most of the time anyway and the only effect this will have on anything are the floor votes.
Wouldnt surprise me if he switched back after you guys lose the next election.
Specter’s just trying to save his own hide. I wonder if this has anything to do with it?
“Incumbent Senator Arlen Specter trails former Congressman Pat Toomey by 21 points in an early look at Pennsylvania’s 2010 Republican Primary. Fifty-one percent (51%) of Republican voters statewide say they’d vote for Toomey while just 30% would support Specter.”
Specter’s a coward, he’ll fit in well with the democrats.
Patrick Williams says: Spector is a two-face coward. Glad to see him leave. Sorry he didn’t take
McCain with him. We need to clean house of these no good crooks.What can we
do to defeat him in Pa. and install the term limits?
rita says: I am excited. For one thing I am not a republican, but agreed with many things that specter believed in. I am glad he switched parties, but I would still have voted for him even if he was a republican.
In response to your query Ken:
I wonder if this has anything to do with it?
Yes. It had EVERYTHING to do with it. Spectre didn’t “hold the line” and adhere to each and every litmus test issue the modern Republicans put forth. Therefore, the more rabid elements of the GOP (well-represented on this blog) decided to challenge him in the primary.
Looks like it backfired.
Kate and others may say they’re happy to have him leave. But, take a look around, it’s not just Spectre. A recent poll showed that a mere 21% of voters identified themselves as Republicans.
You want more people to leave?
“Yes. It had EVERYTHING to do with it. Spectre didn’t “hold the line” and adhere to each and every litmus test issue the modern Republicans put forth. Therefore, the more rabid elements of the GOP (well-represented on this blog) decided to challenge him in the primary.”
You mean like the dems did to Lieberman?
“For one thing I am not a republican, but agreed with many things that specter believed in.”
What exactly is it the Specter believed in, rita? Tell me.
Yes, exactly like the dems did to Lieberman. The difference is this: Lieberman had to come crawling back.
“The difference is this: Lieberman had to come crawling back.”
Well, I think when the dems were looking for their 60 seats they did a little crawling to Lieberamn as well.
That’s what its all about to dems, power not policy. Whatever they have to do to stay in power. They stand for nothing except their power.
To answer your question, I really couldn’t care less if more people like Specter leave. I’d rather have 3 Repulbicans in the Senate/Congress who adhered to their principles than a majority who are only interested in their own survival.
That’s the whole problem with Washington today and it doesn’t look like its going to change anytime soon.
Well, Ken, anyone outside of Dixie is running away from the GOP as fast as they possibly can. Again, I cite the poll that shows only a mere 21% of voters that identify themselves as Republicans versus 35% Democrats and 29% Independent.
And didn’t Specter hold to his principles? Isn’t that why the GOP decided to challenge him? Because he wouldn’t follow their lead down to the letter?
micky says: “Republicans, you did this to yourselves.”
You can have him.
“You want more people to leave?”
If they’re two faced pricks who dont support true conservatism, yea.
The blind minions you have following you will have your party eating itself alive as evidence shows is already happening.
I could easely counter your claim with the many middle of the road moderates that no longer have any faith in Obama along with … http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/59_would_vote_to_replace_entire_congress
“Democrats are a bit less unhappy than other voters. Seventy-four percent (74%) of Republicans would vote to throw out the entire Congress as would 62% of unaffiliated voters. Only 43% of Democrats go along. Still, just 25% of those in Barack Obama’s party would vote to keep the entire Congress even though it’s controlled by Democrats. ”
We need members who will adhere to conservative principles and not be fair weather floaters like Spector who pander to expediency instead of towing the line that will save this country.
McCain is the perfect example. Many republicans simply couldnt bring themselves to vote for him considering his many leftist views.
What “recent poll” showed that only 21% identified themselves as republicans ?
I’ll bet its not an honest poll that reflected how there are many different breeds of conservatives, liberal conservatives and republicans that still register to vote as republicans. 46% to 48% percent voted republican in the last election. You mean to tell me that since then more than half have moved to the dems ?
I doubt it, get real .
“And didn’t Specter hold to his principles? Isn’t that why the GOP decided to challenge him? Because he wouldn’t follow their lead down to the letter?”
Voting in favor of the biggest debt this country ever faced is not Republican principles. That’s why they went after him. You can’t call yourself a Republican and then vote for obscene spending, claiming you a part of the party of limited government and free enterprise. Doesn’t work.
But isn’t that what the GOP did when they were in power? The Clinton administration gave us a surplus. Junior ran up the biggest deficits (and debt) in history.
PenniePan says: 60 in the Senate… Filibuster proof. NOW go sit down and shut up.
Jim says: Pat Toomey won’t come within 30 points of beating Specter, and PA Republicans don’t have anyone else remotely competitive.
Rope says: Penni>60 in the Senate… Filibuster proof. NOW go sit down and shut up.
Typical…………………….Power, its all you seem to crave. Power and numbers but no substance.
You seem to think we will just go away. Well I’ve got news for you, we won’t.
Yes, Rope! Rage! Bring out all that anger and hatred! Bring it out and show it to all of us!
You and Ted and Mikey have sown a crop of repression, ignorance, and hypocrisy. Well, the grain is ripe. Go, now, and reap your reward!
Reap it, damn you! Reap it!
Rope says: WTH Dade. What rage, anger, and hatred are you talking about. I was responding to Penni suggesting we should sit down and shut up.
How would you have responded? What would you have said if I had told you 8 years ago to sit down and shut up? Rage, anger, and hatred only in your mind. Repressed and ignorant? Why because I think this administration has no substance?
Rope says: Thank you.
You scared me. I had scenes of Orson Wells going thru my head. LOL. Although we don’t agree on most things you have never been ugly or condesending.
micky says: “Poor Micky. This whole thing has been hard on you, hasn’t it?”
I dont know what the hell you’re supposed to mean by that but what makes that an asinine statement is that its you and your party that should be happy and not acting like someone pee’d on their pie.
Instead you guys have been more bitchy than I can ever remember.
Pennie.
“60 in the Senate… Filibuster proof. NOW go sit down and shut up.
Yea, Rope hit it on the nail but I’ll also add that its not filibuster proof.
Your lust for power and ignorance of the countrys best interest has led you to not hear what Spector said. and that was this does not mean a filibuster proof congress because he will not always vote in line with the majority.
It also shows your ignorance to the damage that occurs everytime a government falls into a one party state. I myself would never want a one party conservative executive, house and senate because its never good when either side has too much power.
People who really care about the country and not just winning a pi$$ing match know this.
Enjoy your little victory, I doubt you’ll know what to do with it.
And yea, the “sit down and shut up ” crap is typical when you cant put enough together to make decent argument.
micky says: “You and Ted and Mikey have sown a crop of repression, ignorance, and hypocrisy. Well, the grain is ripe. Go, now, and reap your reward!”
Seems like you’re the one out of control Dade.
You just leveled a bunch of accusations at Rope, Ted and myself with no clear example of what the hell you were talking about and you were off half the time.
Get a grip.
>>Specter to Switch Political Parties
Wow. I thought he was going to start voting with the Republicans all of a sudden. Now if he would only take Snowe and Collins with him. I knew the effects of that brain tumor would eventually bring him all the way over. It was only a matter of time. “Arlen, come to the Dark side. You will be rewarded.”
The pendulum will once again swing back to conservatism, it always does, so it’s a short-term concern. If it doesn’t, given the current pace of things then just take a look at old movies and pics of the USSR in the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s and you’ll have an accurate reflection of where the Dems/libs want to take this country. Then, it’s a rather short trip from there to complete collaspe.
Arlen spector is exactly whats wrong with these politicians, he was elected and kept in government by his republican constituents, now when its time to go and the poeple want someone new, he turns into a democrat therby thumbing his nose at the people he was elected to serve, now thats arrogancy.
crypticsound says: With Spector now in our pocket (and believe me he will be because he has no where else to go) we’ll show you what it’s like for adults to lead the country.
>>With Spector now in our pocket (and believe me he will be because he has no where else to go) we’ll show you what it’s like for adults to lead the country.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA……..
What in the world do libs know about being adults? You want a gov’t to tell you what to do from the moment you wake up until the time you go to bed. That’s not being adults, that’s wanting a Nanny. Given your stated desire, you want that for yourself, and that’s fine seeing that’s what you as a lib need. You like being a slave, so by all means be that way. As for me, I’ll do quite well by myself w/out some bureaucrat in DC who can’t even control their own life trying to tell me how to live mine.
Ken says: “But isn’t that what the GOP did when they were in power? The Clinton administration gave us a surplus. Junior ran up the biggest deficits (and debt) in history.”
Indeed they did, which is why they are not in power anymore, IMO. However, that’s the exception not the rule. If the people were fed up with spending, how are they going to feel about tripling the debt in less than three months? We are now in the highest national debt in our history. Obama has rung up more debt than ALL the other presidents in our history COMBINED. Or is it ok because they are democrats?
This past election was not a blowout, no matter what the Obama fans think, it was closer than they want to admit. After a few years of out of control spending what will happen to the dems? Will Specter want to come back to the Republicans.
The point is you can’t change your ideals and values just to save your job, and that goes for Republicans and democrats. It’s weak. At least Lieberman claims himself as an Independent democrat, he didn’t change to Republican.
Ken says: “With Spector now in our pocket (and believe me he will be because he has no where else to go) we’ll show you what it’s like for adults to lead the country.”
Excellent! You will let me know when some adults show up in the democratic party, won’t you, cryptic?
Key says: Y’all sound way too worried. I think I smell rightwing fear. BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
“Y’all sound way too worried. I think I smell rightwing fear. BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH”
Oh make no mistake, Key, we are worried. We have a president who has racked up more debt than all the other presidents in this country’s history combined. Obama racked up more debt than both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. All we heard was how Bush was “bankrupting the country”, yet when this historical debt is created at the hands of the democrats, we hear applause. Mind boggling.
Obama’s foreign policy seems to rotate around apologizning to everyone on the planet in the hopes that they will like us. A foreign policy worse than Clinton and Carter.
Obama has gone back and more campaing promises than I can keep up with, this from the man who was going to “change the politics in Washington”, remember? He’s not going to be the “same old thing”.
Many in this country have been seriously duped, whether willingly or not, yet the only defense of Obama’s policies that they can give is: “People like him!!!”
Absolutely brillinat.
Make no mistake, Key, we are worried. As I have said many times, the Republicans didn’t lose in this past election, America did.
“Y’all sound way too worried. I think I smell rightwing fear. BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH”
Oh make no mistake, Key, we are worried. We have a president who has racked up more debt than all the other presidents in this country’s history combined. Obama racked up more debt than both the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined. All we heard was how Bush was “bankrupting the country”, yet when this historical debt is created at the hands of the democrats, we hear applause. Mind boggling.
Obama’s foreign policy seems to rotate around apologizning to everyone on the planet in the hopes that they will like us. A foreign policy worse than Clinton and Carter.
Obama has gone back and more campaing promises than I can keep up with, this from the man who was going to “change the politics in Washington”, remember? He’s not going to be the “same old thing”.
Many in this country have been seriously duped, whether willingly or not, yet the only defense of Obama’s policies that they can give is: “People like him!!!”
Absolutely brilliant.
Make no mistake, Key, we are worried. As I have said many times, the Republicans didn’t lose in this past election, America did.
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