Hey ladies: you can train your husband like you train your toddler!!

Hey ladies: you can train your husband like you train your toddler!!

This article was e-mailed to me, and I knew I was in for a good one when I saw the title: “Parenting techniques to try on your spouse”. I automatically knew that spouse really meant husband, and as I read the article… I saw that I was right!!

The other day, as I stood in front of the open freezer waiting for a dinner idea to strike, I noticed that the ice tray on top of the stack was empty. So I took it out. The second tray was empty too, as was the tray beneath it, and so on until the sixth and final tray, which held a single cube, spotted with grains of coffee.

My husband had evidently been at it again.

I was gearing up for a tirade when I heard a calm, reasonable voice in the back of my mind say, “Choose your battles.” I stopped short. I knew this voice; it was the voice of every parenting expert whose books I’ve avidly devoured since the birth of my first child seven years ago.

This same voice had talked me down when my kids yowled for candy in the supermarket checkout line, screamed at the sight of the hairbrush, or flat-out refused to even try the lovely broccoli I’d cooked especially for them.

But how could my parenting gurus possibly have anything to do with what was destined to be a purely marital spat? “Choose your battles,” the voice repeated as I ran cold water in one of the trays. Well, it was worth a try.

When Greg walked in the door that evening, late again, I bit my tongue and avoided any mention of ice, trays, or irresponsible husbands. And the evening turned out to be much more pleasant than it would have been otherwise.

The next day, I considered the matter in detail. Could it be that the same tactics I use on my two sons — one in second grade, the other still in diapers — might work on my husband as well? Would, say, a cranky toddler and a cranky 34-year-old scientist respond to the same things?

The author then goes on to explain various child-rearing techniques to try, such as rewarding positive behavior.

Good behavior rewarded leads to more good behavior. But would my husband take the bait?

I decided to find out on a Saturday, one of my precious days to sleep late. At 9:30 that morning, when I staggered downstairs to the kitchen to find my older son, Zander, using his spoon as a Cheerio catapult, 10-month-old Thad elbow deep in the dog’s water bowl, and my husband buried in the sports section, I took a deep, cleansing breath. “I really appreciate your letting me sleep in,” I began.

“The baby wakes up so much at night all week long that staying in bed on Saturdays keeps me from going insane. Thanks again for all your help.”

My husband lowered his newspaper. “You’re welcome,” he said, looking me firmly in the eye. “You know, I wouldn’t mind sleeping in occasionally myself. Maybe we could trade weekends from now on, so we both get a chance to relax.”

Disaster! A few snappy retorts came to mind, but I had a sinking feeling that this particular battle was definitely better left unchosen. What I needed was another time-tested parenting strategy.

This lady sees trading weekends as a disaster? Really? I’m guessing she sees it that way because she wakes up early to take care of the kids every day. But I’m assuming he does too, for his job. So maybe I’m just missing the explanation of how it’s a “disaster” to take turns sleeping in. I would have thought that his suggestion was a perfectly good suggestion, but then again, I’m not a woman who thinks I need to “train” my husband like I “train” a toddler.

But wait, it gets better. She even advocates giving your husband a time-out!

Monday began badly. I had foolishly permitted Thad to fiddle with our bedside clock during a diaper change on Sunday, so the alarm didn’t go off. Zander missed the school bus, Greg left in a hurry, and I missed my morning opportunity to shower and collect my wits.

I spent the day feeling harried and unproductive, and by the time my husband got home (37 minutes later than he promised — but who’s counting?), I had managed to feed and bathe the kids, but that was it. The house was a disaster. There was nothing for us to eat. “Where have you been?” I hissed.

Things went downhill from there. I mentioned loudly that my day had been so hectic that I hadn’t even had a chance to shower. Greg countered by listing the many ways in which his day had been hectic, and he wondered whether I’d managed to accomplish anything during his absence.

I pointed out that a bracing shower in the morning often helped a person feel like accomplishing things. My husband remarked that in a household that always runs late, a person with places to go can hardly be expected to stick around while another person indulges showering whims.

I took exception to the implication that the running late was my fault. He pointed out that it wasn’t his idea to let the baby play with the alarm clock. “Oh, sure, blame the baby,” I said bitterly. “Probably it was the baby’s fault you were 37 minutes late getting home tonight, too.”

“I wasn’t late,” he said, wounded. “I said I’d be home around 7.”

“Around 7 is not seven 7:30!” I cried. “Go to your room!”

Greg stared at me. Oh, dear. In my excitement over my great baby-gate success, I’d forgotten to consider whether the time-out needed modifications for adult application. With all the dignity I could muster, I turned on my heel and marched up the stairs to my office.

If I couldn’t send my husband to his room, I’d just have to go to mine, shut the door — and let him cope with feeding the kids and getting them both to bed.

I almost felt like she should’ve added in a SO THERE! at the end, and stuck her tongue out at him as she retreated.

While there were some other examples of toddler-training techniques she gave that you could use that are not included here, she concluded
that hey, husbands really DO need to be trained like babies!

So, did the week of using parenting skills in my marriage work? Absolutely. For one thing, it was tremendously refreshing to see these strategies actually get results. (Grown men are amazingly more responsive than children, I thought one night as Greg picked up all the towels while Zander ignored my exhortations to get out of the tub.)

It turns out that trying to find the best way to relate to your kids (who certainly put all kinds of new stresses and strains on your relationship) can actually help you relate to your spouse.

Articles like these just kill me, and on so many levels. I’m not even a man, and my blood is boiling. I can only imagine what my male readers must be thinking. Particularly insulting was the example in which her husband, after the kids were in bed and the chores were done, wanted to play Scrabble with her. He was cheerfully following her around the house, asking her to play a game with him. She wanted him to, in her words, “just leave her alone”. So she spent fifteen minutes with him to get him off her back, after which she was able to escape the clutches of her dreaded husband into a bath. By the time she was done, he was already asleep.

Just for fun, let’s imagine that a man had written this article about his wife, and recommended that husbands train their wives using these same manipulative skills. How quickly do you think the outcry would come?

I think the first issue here is the obvious contempt and condescension she has for her husband. Anyone who looks at their significant other as someone they need to train has a serious problem, and it’s not their spouse. This woman so clearly lacks respect for her husband, it’s sickening. And not only does she lack respect for him, but she’s proud of it. She’s proud of the way she feels, proud enough to write an entire article about it and tell other women to emulate her behavior. The “men are so stupid” attitude is on full display here, telling other women that they need to train their stupid, obnoxious husbands as if they were animals at the zoo. Men are idiots and easy to manipulate, and thank God for their brilliant, savvy wives who can train them to be better.

Well, here’s my advice to the woman who wrote this article, and the women who read it. Try not to be such a condescending, obnoxious bitch as a start. Treat your husband with respect. Maybe then you’ll be respected in turn. If you want something, you give it first. If you want your husband to love you, then shower him with love. If you want him to respect you, show him respect. In relationships, you get what you give.

Is all of the advice in the article necessarily bad? No, some of it is good advice. Choosing your battles and rewarding good behavior are great things to practice. But the condescending attitude ruins any of the goodwill that her advice might have held. Relationships and marriages are about partnerships. You should treat your spouse as if they were your partner and your equal, not as if they were someone you needed to train.

Sadly, the comments section in the article just goes to show that this is not a one-woman issue. The men were, unsurprisingly, insulted and indignant. The women thought the advice was fantastic. One woman even ventured a theory that men are really only “grown-up babies”. It kills me to see men so easily demeaned and disrespected in our culture today. Why do so many women feel they are so above men?

It is never healthy to treat an adult as if they were a child. Again, marriage is about partnership and communication. Women need to stop acting like spoiled children who look at their husbands as pets or children they can train and manipulate to do their will.

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18 Comments
  • Luke says:

    The sad part is, there are women who will try this.

    I wonder what the reaction would be if a counter-article were written from a man’s perspective. It obviously wouldn’t be from a parenting point of view… something more “manly” perhaps.

    How about “10 Dog training techniques to Get your wife to treat you with respect”

    …makes me laugh.

  • DarcKnyt says:

    Thank you for making this point. This attitude has been perpetuated through TV and “comedy” movies so many times it makes me want to vomit.

    I appreciate your candor on the topic. It’s refreshing, especially noting what furor would rise if the article had been written from a male perspective.

  • Chris M-G says:

    The feminism movement would be akin to the Democrats’ recent treatment of Rush if this had been written by a man.

  • I R A Darth Aggie says:

    Just for fun, let’s imagine that a man had written this article about his wife, and recommended that husbands train their wives using these same manipulative skills.

    I’m not metrosexual enough to try manipulation. Nah, everything I needed to know about training a wife I learned from John Wayne: sometimes you just have to turn them over you knee, and give them a good spanking.

  • Now, don’t get me wrong, if I was a judge with cases brought before me involving husbands beating up on their wives, I’d dutifully sentence each and every single one to weeks of hard labor, dozen by dozen, hundreds by hundreds. But if one of the blokes offered up that the reason his wife had a black eye and a missing tooth, was, “She made an issue out of me being home at 7:37 instead of 7:00″…I’d hesitate just a second or two before lowering the gavel.

    Chrissakes, where do they live? Let me tell you about Sacramento and environs. Things go wrong, the way they go wrong now. But they’re spaced away from each other the way they were about a hundred and fifty years ago. It’s urban sprawl, and it’s hit worse here than just about anyplace else, I daresay. The typical homeowner in this area lives in El Dorado Hills but works at a state job (over which he’s fretting, right now, but that’s a whole different story)…downtown. That’s north of thirty miles, one-way. Highway 50 makes this a pretty unpredictable thirty miles. Highway 80, upon which you depend if you live in Roseville, Citrus Heights, Rocklin, and parts of Carmichael, is twice as bad.

    This is California. That means if it sprinkles a little tiny bit, people slam on their brakes, make the freeway into a parking lot, and sit, wondering what to do, New Orleans style. Yeah I’ll say that because I’m not a native. It’s TRUE. These people can’t handle anything out of the ordinary — and when you decide what I mean by “ordinary” remember we have palm trees growing here. If it’s below 70 degrees Fahrenheit people here call it “freezing.” Thirty-seven minutes?? Double that, and you still have what, with a reasonably hectic traffic report, would be considered a rounding error. What a raging sociopath bitch.

    Once again, I see the problem is that the feminist movement took all of our social customs, traditions and taboos that came from fifteenth-century Europe, and repealed just half of them, the half that were inconvenient to women. This other thing nobody wants to discuss, the part where men like me look to men like you to provide guidance, to define what “normal” is in a civilized society, was left undisturbed. And a coven of modern witches who think “normal” has something to do with insulting men all the time, are left with a now-centuries-old mindset that says women should never, ever, under any circumstances, ever have to adapt to anybody with a different idea about things, unless they’re doing their annual synchronization exercise with figuring out what’s in fashion. Real compromise is exclusively a man’s domain, in other words. So I expect this article will resonate, and resonate well. What a blissfully ignorant way to live out a life. Everyone not doing things the way you expect, man or child, is something that has to be “trained.”

    I really don’t see how these two people can stay married for any length of time, I really don’t. I think back on all the folks I’ve met who were fortunate enough to celebrate a 50th anniversary or something even better…there are no similarities between the way they behave, and what’s described here. None. Better to head on down to “family court” and rip it off quick like a band-aid. Poor dumb bastard doesn’t really have a net worth, one that’s going to enjoy an indefinite lifetime, anyway. He’s just a serf and he doesn’t even know it. Sometimes, I think maybe the same is true of all men who aren’t gay.

    Other than the foregoing, Cassy, I really don’t have an opinion on this at all. Sorry.

  • *ahem*

    …the part where men like me look to men like you to provide guidance…

    Should read as…

    …the part where men like me look to women like you to provide guidance…

    Alcohol content in the white wine is a bit high this afternoon.

    I should add that my girlfriend is working a full day downtown and I’m goofing off with my son playing video games and blogging, after which I expect to be greeting her with a sparkling-clean kitchen and a home-cooked meal. So you see, ladies, if you want to be a REAL woman like my GF, or our hostess here, guys are motivated to do nice things for you.

    And with that, I’m pouring myself another glass and dismounting from the soapbox.

  • Chris M-G says:

    Good man. I was all but ostracized today at work when I said that I did my own laundry, and my own dishes. At least 5 guys I worked with said that that was the woman’s job and thought I had lost it.

  • mightysamurai says:

    You know, it’s not just that this woman is an obnoxious condescending bitch. The fact is she’s flat-out lying about what she’s selling.

    I was gearing up for a tirade when I heard a calm, reasonable voice in the back of my mind say, “Choose your battles.” I stopped short. I knew this voice; it was the voice of every parenting expert whose books I’ve avidly devoured since the birth of my first child seven years ago.

    Choose your battles”? It took a “parenting expert” to help you come up with that one? Seriously?

    My dad taught me that maxim when I was eight. And Sun Tzu was teaching it to his followers thousands of years before that. “He who knows when he can fight and when he cannot will be victorious.” Sound familiar? Apparently not to this broad.

    Good behavior rewarded leads to more good behavior. But would my husband take the bait?

    Um, lady, I’ve got news for you. What you’re describing is called “behaviorism”. Specifically, positive reinforcement. This isn’t some ancient Chinese secret to good parenting, it’s basic high school psychology.

    Would your husband take the bait? Well gosh, I don’t know. I mean, psychologists have only been studying and practicing behaviorist psychology since roughly the 19th century. It’s tough to say for sure, but unless your husband is a freaking Martian I’d guess the answer is “yes”.

    She claims to have found a whole new way for women to relate to their husbands, but all she’s really done is taken basic psychological techniques taught in every high school in the country and repackaged them as her own theories. It’s borderline plagiarism, really.

  • Melinda P says:

    What I want to know is what this woman does all day at home with her 10 month old? I’m a stay-at-home mom, and whether I get a shower or not something is getting done. My house isn’t always spotless, but at least I work hard.

    I also don’t understand where she gets off complaining that her husband got home 37 minutes late! My husband doesn’t have a set time that he is home most evenings. I have 2 choices; bitch about him coming home late or rolling with it. Let’s just say, I’m not complaining. At least my husband has a job. I’m blessed enough to stay home with my kids. The least I can do while he’s out there working hard at his job is to work hard at home. That’s what makes us a team.

  • Doug says:

    Good responses to the article. My wife is a stay at home and that was her choice. Being a 26 yr military veteran, I often came home as late as three months. Often had to change plans in less than a second if the situation changed and often my plans got changed for me. One Christmas I was deployed immediately just a couple of days before Christmas. Missed many birthdays, anniversaries, holidays but we always just made up for it once I got home. Just celebrated our 30th anniversary (I was here for it as I retired in 95). I too have a real problem with the attitudes of men and women, but in particular with the way most men are portrayed on television, especially the commercials. They often show the family living in a very large, expensive home but they portray the husband as a complete ignoramus who isn’t able to make toast. The wife is shown chiding him like a four year old and he of course looks back at her like a four year old. I think it gets worse each year with no let up in sight.

  • Mat says:

    Yeah, that’s why I continue to elect to stay single…’nuff said…

  • So much to despise about her attitude…that 37 minute thing (in case it wasn’t clear before) really got to me. Seems so harmless and reasonable just for one night, but when you build a whole life around it, Omigawd that makes a man old fast.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faRlFsYmkeY

  • Daniel says:

    Anyone want to start a pool on how long it is until she gets to add “ex-” to the term “husband”?

  • KimWW says:

    The part that got to me was the alarm clock. She is miffed about the shower, ALL DAY, when everyone’s day got off to a rocky start and IT WAS HER FAULT! “Blame the BABY?” Heck no! He is 10 months old! SHe was the idiot that let him play with the clock and didn’t check and adjust afterwards, but somehow her husband was at fault? I don’t get it.

    Personally, when I become a mediocre feminist article writer, I am at least going to edit the events I write about enough to not make myself look like an idiotic, childish, whiney-pants.

  • Bob says:

    “It’s obvious that none of the bloggers have been stay-at-homers with small children and what sounds to me like a thoughtless husband.” is one of the comments.

    Yeah, my sister raised four kids as a stay at home mother. This notion that raising children is a FULL TIME job, and there’s NEVER enough time for anything is just ridiculous. Teach the kids to clean up after themselves, and half your work is done already. It’s time for women to stop using the children as an excuse. Stop blaming the kids. Thoughtless husband? How about the thoughtless, selfish harpy he has for a wife.

    Also note that CNN cut off comments for the article..

  • Oh, geez.

    “Positive reinforcement” is better stated as: “It’s easier to catch flies with honey than with vinegar.” Or, to put it another way, it allows you to communicate your desires to another person while maintaining everyone’s dignity. The other person does NOT feel like a child who is always messing up, which is exactly the opposite of what this lady is trying to accomplish. Life is much more pleasant when everyone treats each other – flaws and all – with love and respect.

    Likewise, putting a stopwatch on someone is a bad idea. At best, you feel like you avoided screwing up. Would it ever occur to this woman that, if she’s really bothered by her husband’s lateness, to call him? This is the cell phone age, after all. Rather than berating him as he walks in the door, call him around 7, ask where he is, and put it in a positive manner. Ask him where he is, because you would love to have a hot dinner waiting for him. Call him up and say that you’ve been waiting all day to see him after he’s home from work, but would he indulge you a bit and just let you hear his voice?

    When all else fails – when you keep giving and getting nothing in return, or when you’re like that lady in the comments whose hubby spends thousands of dollars on tropical vacations and leaves her at home – then talk to a pastor, marriage counselor, or divorce attorney, because talking down to your spouse is still wrong.

  • NB says:

    Hmmm, very mixed feelings on this one. On the one hand she’s an insufferable woman who can’t let even the most imaginary slight go. On the other hand he did marry her and had to have at least a rudimentary idea of what she was like.

    In other news, it’s sad that there are so many women that subscribe to this woman’s assessment of men. Very very sad.

  • I am ashamed for the lady who wrote an article on how to train her husband. I came across this article while helping my husband with his psychology homework. I have to admit the title cought my eye but it was kind of like the car wreack effect. You know you should look but you just have to . I found that fact that she had no respect for him sad for both of them. My husband and I are no wear near perfect and there are times he can drive me crazy but I am sure there are times I make him feel the same way. I have found by trying to see the situatin through his point of view helps alot. By the way ladies men are more simple then we are. The intentions are usuly just as they seem there is no hidden meaning most of the time. So my advice is stop trying to read your husbands mind and just ask. Make sure to communicate but do it in moderation. Remeber if you love someone you will work as hard as it takes to keep a marrage running smooth. The last thing I want to leave you with is something my mom tells my husband and I “If there were no bad times then the good times would not be so good.”

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