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gitmo isn’t closing: terrorists actually found there

gitmo isn’t closing: terrorists actually found there

gitmo isn’t closing:  terrorists actually found there

gitmo. the ‘scourge’ of the united states. the ‘place of torture’ that was a ‘complete affont’ to our constitution. its very existence was one of the ‘primary reasons the world hated us’ so.

as a candidate, The One was very clear the facility had to be closed and to the delight of his far left base, signed an executive order just days after he took office.

remember lefties?

hey but that was then and this is now. we’re not closing gitmo, we’re continuing the practice of rendition, and we’re resuming military tribunals. soon, (hold your heads) i predict we may even resume EIT’s!

watch this fun video of the democrats in ‘full retreat’ over gitmo:





and just for the record, president bush wanted to close gitmo, but unlike The One, he was trying to work out a plan first. silly president bush!

so now it seems all of those detainees really are bad guys TERRORISTS and need to stay in gitmo. and those horrible bush era military tribunals? why they aren’t so bad after all! and lets not bring up renditions because some of you are not ready to talk about them yet.

oh, and to add injury to insult, even The One’s bff’s – the media – are commending obama for not being afraid to disappoint you. silly, silly lefties! duped by your messiah, the chosen one, the light fantastic, The One.

well, if it’s any comfort, remember: in obamaland it’s so much more fun to spend your money and take over corporations and stuff than all this annoying national security junk.

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  • Ted says:

    WHAT? I thought those were all innocent and misunderstood farmers and goatherders being detained at Gitmo, not dangerous terrorists. What gives?

    Dear Leader could burn these Gitmo prisoners alive on primetime TV and the libs would still vote for him. They’re mindless idiots, so why shouldn’t he treat them like that?

  • Ken says:

    Typical dem operation. Before the election you rail against the detaining of these poor people, now that reality has set in, no dem wants to be partly responsible for releasing terrorists. Reality sets in. Suddenly our “values” aren’t as important as releasing terrorists, according to the dems who are withholding funding.

    I also saw where a judge rule that detainees CAN be held without a trial:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/20/judge-hold-detainees-indefinitely/

    “A federal judge says the United States can continue to hold some prisoners at Guantanamo Bay indefinitely without any charges.”

    I’m sure we’ll see the same protests against the holding of such inmates without a trial, right? Right?

    Hypocrisy at its best.

  • PenniePan says:

    We were given a lot of promises about this torture shit from a lot of people not just Barack. You can gloat but the fact is, there will be wins and losses. I do believe Barack will find a way around this and close Gitmo eventually.

    Broken promises don’t irritate me as much as an absence of anyone standing up and saying that bitching about moving them from one US territory to another US territory is a zero sum movement.

  • Jilly says:

    I’m sure many of them are so wracked with ptsd and induced psychosis of various unimaginable sorts that “letting them onto the streets” a la Reagan would be just another way of torturing them at this point. Something some of you in here should love!

    For those that we have no evidence against other than hearsay and tortured “confessions,” I would to give hospital care and a quiet life somewhere they each like.

    The thing is, without legitimate trials the government will never have to reveal to the world for which prisoners legitimate evidence exists.

    I would like Cheney and Bush to have trials at the same time. I got some hearsay against them. Boy howdy.

  • kate says:

    jilly you said

    ‘I would to give hospital care and a quiet life somewhere they each like.’

    how lovely! how about if we give each of them a pony? and maybe sheets with rainbows on them?

  • kate says:

    penniepan

    i’m so glad to hear you aren’t upset by The One’s broken promises because there will be many more to come.

  • Micky says:

    ” there will be wins and losses. ”

    Ha !
    Hes screwed you guys on every single national security promise hes ever made.

    Its “ALL” losses.

    What was really funny was to watch Harry Ried yesterday as he called em all dangerous and terrorists.
    I thought they were just innocent bystanders who were in the wrong place at the wrong time ?
    Grasshopper is learning this aint like putting another stop light at an intersection in his community. Lets just pray no one gets hurt at the expense of his arrogant naive ignorance.

  • bikerdan says:

    It’s sad really Kate. Here is Obama – the messiah – stymied in his tracks by idiots like Harry Reid. How is that even possible??? PenniePan? Jared? Dade?

    SNORT.

  • Ken says:

    “I’m sure many of them are so wracked with ptsd and induced psychosis of various unimaginable sorts that “letting them onto the streets” a la Reagan would be just another way of torturing them at this point.”

    Is that your professional opinion from years of study in the field of psychology or is it from your experience watching “The View”?? I’d love to see your evidence of that. Then again, things like “truth” and “evidence” don’t go hand in hand with the dems. Never have, never will.

    “We were given a lot of promises about this torture shit from a lot of people not just Barack.” Sounds like someone’s a little testy!! I couldn’t have said it better than Kate, though, prepare yourself for many more disappointments, Pennie.

  • kate says:

    ‘Is that your professional opinion from years of study in the field of psychology or is it from your experience watching “The View”??’

    heh ken.

  • kate says:

    dan… they won’t have an answer.

  • Jane says:

    Unlike Kate’s diary here, I do NOT believe the EIT’s will resume which has been my issue. I am also not overly concerned about the tribunals because Barack’s people are now heading that up so they will be fair. The bad ones need to be confined.

    I am only concerned about this as it applies to the Uighyers (sp?) who have been cleared for release for YEARS, who would have been released except they can’t be sent back to their homes in China, because China will then torture them. Are they now terrorists?

  • Micky says:

    Yup, has anyone noticed thats been happening a lot lately ?

  • Paul says:

    “Hes screwed you guys on every single national security promise hes ever made.”

    He’s not a dictator like Bush was in his ‘regime’. President Obama has accountability and has also put people in high decision making places that actually THINK for themselves.

    He has not “screwed” us because he and his staff are in charge. We trust them to make this as right as it can be. So go screw yourself, k?

  • Micky says:

    “I do NOT believe the EIT’s will resume which has been my issue. ”

    Why not ? Everything else has resumed. Do you really believe that Obama would tell anyone if he did use them ? Ya know, ya gotta remember, that whole transparency thing was BS also.

  • Ken says:

    Wow, the kool aid is particularly strong today!!

    “President Obama has accountability and has also put people in high decision making places that actually THINK for themselves.”

    Like Joe Biden?! Boy, that’s a thinker for you!! If that is a example of Obama’s decision making abilities this country is in far worse trouble than I thought.

  • PenniePan says:

    LOL you right wingers are sure salivating over this bone. Well keep in mind that Barack is releasing his plan tomorrow which will be covered everywhere so pay attention and we’ll see who gets the last laugh.

  • Micky says:

    Paul, I’ve been very patient with your arrogant idiocy.

    He has too screwed you, whether you f*ckin like it or not so dont take it out on me.
    Obama is the closest thing to dictator this country has ever seen in its history.

    Every aspect of our lives from our bodies to our wealth is dictated to us by every policy briyght about in the last 4 months. Would you like me to list them ? Or would that cause you to go off on the messenger again rather than just growing up and accepting the truth ?

    “He has not “screwed” us because he and his staff are in charge.”

    You wanna tell me how this translates into him not screwing you ?
    Obviously they’re in charge of NOTHING !!!!!

    “as also put people in high decision making places that actually THINK for themselves.”

    If he and them could think for themselves so damn well they wouldnt of had to resort to using every single one of Bushs national security policies instead of the lame ass promises he made to all you lemmings.

    Give it up…
    you’re screwed

  • Micky says:

    ” you right wingers are sure salivating over this bone.”

    More like the whole skeleton.

    ” Well keep in mind that Barack is releasing his plan tomorrow which will be covered everywhere”

    Yea, it’ll probably be one of Bushs plans again.

    “so pay attention and we’ll see who gets the last laugh.”

    I’ve got plenty to last me for a while

  • Ken says:

    “Well keep in mind that Barack is releasing his plan tomorrow which will be covered everywhere so pay attention and we’ll see who gets the last laugh.”

    Um, shouldn’t he have already HAD a plan while he was bashing Gitmo while running for president? Just asking. That would seem like common sense, oops, I just answered my own question!

  • lisab says:

    “I would to give hospital care and a quiet life somewhere they each like.” jilly

    i actually am normally a big supporter of the theory of evolution over creationism or intelligent design …

    but i have to admit, this comment makes it difficult to believe in the survival of the fittest

    are we supposed to believe that out of 200 million sperm you were the fastest?

  • lisab says:

    why don’t you offer to host one of the gitm prisoners in your house jilly?

    i am sure the prisoner will be very nice to you.

  • lisab says:

    somewhere archangels are saying,

    “dang lisab figured out the flaw in evolution — i told you not to send jilly down there”

  • lisab says:

    ok … jilly’s brain gets on a government subsidized train heading due east at 35 miles per hour

    at the same time, 3,000 miles away, an obamabot gets on another government subsidized train heading due west at 40 miles per hour

    assuming they both stop only once to buy medical marijuana at an planned parenthood abortion clinic,

    how long will it take before they BOTH blame bush for a lack of rolling papers?

  • Ted says:

    >>”I’m sure many of them are so wracked with ptsd and induced psychosis of various unimaginable sorts that “letting them onto the streets” a la Reagan would be just another way of torturing them at this point.”

    I read that and figured you were talking about liberals, but then realized you were talking about terrorists. Come to think of it, they have a lot in common.

    ———–

    Ted: “I’ll take mentally insane for $200, Alex.”

    Alex: “What cult follower of Dear Leader said this: ‘He’s not a dictator like Bush was in his ‘regime’. President Obama has accountability and has also put people in high decision making places that actually THINK for themselves. He has not “screwed” us because he and his staff are in charge. We trust them to make this as right as it can be'”?

  • Micky says:

    “how long will it take before they BOTH blame bush for a lack of rolling papers?”

    37.5 hrs

  • lisab says:

    and nominees for the stupidest comment ever made on a political blog are:

    Jilly for “I would to give hospital care and a quiet life somewhere they each like.”

    there were no other nominees … and the winner is … Jilly

    do you want to know the kind of quiet life they like?

    SHOOTING YOU IN THE HEAD

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x-fkSYDtUY

  • lisab says:

    oy vey … and i am not even Jewish

    do you know what FDR did to the german spies that were dropped off in the united states and for the most part surrendered and confessed everything before they even did anything — including one who defected and turned in the others?

    he had them sent to the electric chair …

  • lisab says:

    (actually only 6 of the eight got the electric chair)

  • Mark says:

    Let’s incarcerate those mean horrible scary terrorists in Yucca Mountain. That place is pretty f*cking secure. Will that work for ya bitch?

  • Marsha says:

    I was just watching the news and apparently Harry Reid’s not polling really well in Nevada for his reelection. Maybe this was trying to nod to those Republicans at home who voted for him time and time again.

    Hey Mark get lost troll.

    Pennie there is no plan Obama can give to explain his way out of this except to admit President Bush was right. But he is a narcissist and a coward so he will never do that.

    Jilly are you for real??? Good G-D.

  • lisab says:

    Mark,

    i don’t think Yucca mountain has ponies

  • Micky says:

    Reid is the same guy that thinks illegal aliens are “undocumented Americans”.

    You just know hes kissing someone if not everyones a$$ on this one.

    Obamas plan will result in all these guys being dealt with on an individual basis that will take years. Hence, Gitmo will not close for years.

  • lisab says:

    anthrax and ricin and ammonium nitrate
    bright copper bullets and religious slave states
    suspicious packages and traps set to spring
    these are a few of my favorite things

  • Jilly says:

    STFU you POS. No one is laughing. You are just some crazy chick on a blog.

  • Micky says:

    Jilly calling people crazy.

    I’m laughing along with about 1/2 the country.
    I’ll bet GWB is gettin the best laugh out of all of us. I can almost picture him right now, rollin his eyes and giggling.

  • lisab says:

    Jilly,

    your hateful comments are causing me to be wracked with ptsd …

    i think you owe me a pony

  • Micky says:

    Crazy chicks on ponies, yeah.

  • Max says:

    Jilly, I’m sure that is just a typo. You actually are Filly, and you are a pony. Am I right, or what? Happy to be of help!

  • Ken says:

    Isn’t it funny how the lefties have to resort to telling people to STFU and cursing them out, or calling them bitch? They simply cannot have a debate on any issue.

    Truly pathetic.

  • lisab says:

    technically i am a leftie … both literally and politically 🙂

    but yeah … i don’t know what i said … for terrorists Jilly is all ponies and rainbows

    for returned peace corps volunteers she is all madame pelosish

    i think she owes me some quiet time … i choose tuscany

  • lisab says:

    on second thought maybe we are being harsh to Jilly … maybe the terrorists are just like the von trapp family … um … nah …

    anthrax and ricin and ammonium nitrate
    bright copper bullets and iranian slave states
    suspicious packages and traps set to spring
    these are a few of my favorite things

    cream-colored ponies and government feudal;
    explosive plastique destroying kit and caboodle;
    oppressing peasants putting their butts into slings;
    these are a few of my favorite things.

    girls in white burkas with blue satin veils;
    pipe bombs packed tight with ball bearings and nails;
    shooting at pilots from colorado springs;
    these are a few of my favorite things.

    when the bombs fly,
    when the bee stings,
    when i’m feeling sad,
    i simply remember my favorite things,
    and then i don’t feel so bad.

  • lisab says:

    see … that is exactly the type of comment that kept me from winning the miss congeniality award of the miss al quaeda contest

  • PenniePan says:

    LisaB you are mental. I hope you don’t have a gun. But I bet you are fun at parties. Glad to hear you’re a Liberal though! I couldn’t tell in all of your nonsense.

  • lisab says:

    PenniePan,

    i am very liberal on most issues, except for abortion, i am pro-life and conservative on that issue (yeah i am a former catholic school girl). so no death penalty, no abortion. returned peace corps volunteer. universal health care? you bet. free education? yup. gay marriage? of course. aid to developing countries? obviously.

    but when someone like Jilly spouts insane stuff like … “I would to give hospital care and a quiet life somewhere they each like.”

    that just makes liberals look stupid. i have lived in other countries. i have been mugged way more tha a dozen times. i have been attacked by people with a knife (in the usa actually).

    there ARE people who WILL hurt you, and you better be prepared to fight when they show up because they will rape your dying body and not care how it looks to their friends.

  • lisab says:

    this just in …

    Ahmed Khalfan Ghailani is being sent by obama to

    the USA

    to be tried in a usa court.

    what if he gets off? that will be a disaster for obama.

  • lisab says:

    it should be noted being a liberal and being a dem toady are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS

    if someone supports obama no matter what he does … that is a dem toady

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