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The smartest answer on abortion EVAH:
Here’s the succinct version, narrowing it down to the good stuff:
Rick Warren: OK, now, um, let’s deal with abortion. 40 million abortions since Roe V. Wade, you know, as a pastor, I have to deal with this all the time. All of the pain, and all of the conflicts. I know this is a very com… complex issue. 40 million… uh, abortions. At what point does a baby get human rights in your view?
Obama: Well, uh, you know, I think that whether you’re looking at it from a theological perspective or, uh, a scientific perspective, uh, answering that question with specificity, uh, you know, is, is, uh, above my pay grade.
Deciding when an unborn baby gets human rights is only one of the major points in deciding whether you are pro-life or pro-abortion. And considering how widely polarizing abortion is, I would think it would be important for the man who can undeniably have a huge impact on one of the biggest court rulings in the last century, Roe V. Wade, shouldn’t that be something they have a firm answer on? To just brush it off, saying it’s “above my pay grade”, is beyond ridiculous.
That statement is Obama’s way of dodging having to give an answer.
He knows his views on abortion are not in line with most Americans, even pro-abortion Americans. He’s got an extremely radical position on abortion, including most recently a record that came to light where he voted against babies who survived abortions being allowed to live. He calls Margaret Sanger, the racist eugenicist founder of Planned Parenthood, one of his heroes. He’s voted for partial-birth and late term abortions. He’s got a 100% approval rating on abortion from NARAL and a 0% rating from the NRLC. He’s voted against parental notification for minors to get out-of-state abortions (even though it made an exception for the health of the mother). He’s a co-sponsor of the “Freedom of Choice” act, which would nullify all limitations on abortions. He’s voted against the Hyde Amendment, which banned the use of taxpayer funding for abortions through Medicaid (so according to him, pro-lifers should still have to pay for women to get abortions — nice.).
Those are Obama’s positions on abortion.
And you know what? If that’s what he supports, then it’s what he supports. Abortion is a hot-button issue, and there are certainly some people who will look at the above as a benefit to his campaign, not a liability. Where he stands on the issue of abortion is not the problem in this particular instance, even though I greatly disagree with him. The problem here is that, in this video, he’s being as ambiguous as possible because he doesn’t want to get tied down to any particular stance. If he’s talking to a bunch of Christians who are pro-life, he wants to be able to say he respects life. If he’s talking to a roomful of feminists, he wants to be able to say he’s pro-choice. And if he’s talking to a bunch of undecided moderates, he wants to be able to say he can relate to them, too.
The problem is, the job title of President — and even Senator — means that you have to define where you stand, and especially on such polarizing issues. That’s part of the job description. You can’t be everything to everyone, a shocking concept to the Obamamessiah, I’m sure. His being pro-abortion will likely piss a lot of people off. If he was pro-life, it’d piss a lot of people off, too. You can’t please everyone, and if you want to be a politician, you have to be able to take a stance on tough issues. It’s not a lot of fun, but it’s the way the game works.
It’s pretty clear what Obama’s position on abortion is, but with videos like this, he’s clearly trying to hide it as much as possible. It’s what he’s done throughout this entire election. During the primary, he tried to align himself with the far left as much as possible. Now that he’s got to win over the rest of the country, he’s trying to make himself appear more moderate. And so he’s got to try to hide his radical views. Fortunately for the Obamamessiah, the mainstream media isn’t going to hold him to anything whatsoever.
Unfortunately for the Obamamessiah, the rest of us will. And if defining your stance on a hot-button issue is “above your pay grade”, Mr. Obama, then the Presidency is above your pay grade, too.
Hat Tip: Hot Air
I think he’s right. It’s above his pay grade. But you know what people have to decide the issue? Senators, judges, and presidents, among others. So, really, he’s not qualified for his job NOW; why would we promote him to chief executive? What a buffoon.
Just before people babble the nonsense they need to babble to make a liberal position look good, it seems unavoidable that complicated things are made to look simple, or simple things are made to look complicated. This, I think, would be an example of the second of those two.
If you don’t stand for something, you’re liable to fall for anything.
Above his pay grade? Or above his mental level?
It could be that when Barack Obama says that question of when life begins is ‘above his pay grade’, he means has has to refer the question to his boss, George Soros.
As for me, I look at the question is two part, biological and legal.
The biological answer to when life begins is at conception. The moment prior to your conception there was no you, then in an instant there was a unique indivdual. This is simple biology Then maybe biology is too distracting for BO.
The legal question is at what point in the human lifecycle are legal rights recognized. The question of personhood. As the federal constitution does not address the legal quetion of personhood, via the Ninth Amendment, the power to resolve that legal question is left to the People, of which I am one.
There is no question of when life begins, only a biological fact. The question of personhood by the Constitution is given to the People to decide. Neither question is above the pay grade of a citizen, unless they taking orders from George Soros.
“Sen. Obama, Could you be more vague?”
Obama can try to spin it anyway he wants. His voting record in Illinois shows that he voted against the babies that survived after abortion procedures.
The only question I have is for Obama,
“When does he feel that a child is a child?”
He certainly doesn’t think its conception being pro-choice. He does not feel it is after birth due to his vote. So is it 1 hour later? Is it a day after birth? Does a 5 year old have any rights or can you still decide to “abort” them, too?
Personally, life starts at conception and an abortion survivor being left to die is beyond anything I can put into words.
I’ve been hammering the Obamessiah on this one for a couple of weeks now, since I first found out about his shameful position. His position is so radical that even Planned Parenthood doesn’t support it!
It’s God decision!! The Repo guy has flip-floped on this issue big time.
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