Donald Trump has a strange relationship with the media, to say the least. He basks in the glow of constant attention, and loves seeing his name in the headlines. The mainstream media, for their part, can’t get enough of him. He brings ratings. He brings shocking soundbites and inflammatory stories. But Trump can turn on a dime, and suddenly, that love has turned to hatred. And it’s because the media would dare to say anything negative about him or, Heaven forbid, question him. No one is allowed to question The Donald. He’s not allowed to be criticized. So when the press breaks The Donald’s rules, he completely loses his temper. Graydon Carter and Kurt Andersen know this better than anyone. Founders of the now-defunct Spy Magazine, they were a thorn in Trump’s side during the 80s, constantly lampooning him for his vulgarity, excess, and questionable business tactics. And a new interview with Carter and Andersen gives some disturbing insight into Trump’s dealings with the press.