Is it ever OK to tase a 72-year-old woman?

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Is it ever OK to tase a 72-year-old woman?

Is it ever OK to tase a 72-year-old woman?

I learned of this story from a tweet by Don Surber. Reading Don’s take on the story, my initial response was one of shock and horror.

His boss: “She was using language I wouldn’t expect any woman to use, let alone a 72-year-old woman.”

Well, that explains everything.

Foul language.

I am surprised the officer did not cap her for hurling an F-bomb. It looks bad because it is bad.

She’s 72.

She was driving 60 in a 45 construction zone.

She was belligerent.

She’s 72.

Look, I know old people are dangerous. The shooter at the Holocaust Museum is 88.

And I know traffic stops are dangerous for police officers.

But still, her refusal to sign a speeding ticket seems small. The ticket is still valid.

According to the Austin American-Statesman newspaper report: “Taser International recommends not using the weapon on people who are physically infirm or elderly. It was not known late Tuesday what the Taser policy is for constable deputies.”

Whatever that policy it is, the officer who tased granny should know it. He’s a Taser instructor.

And whatever the policy is, they should change it.

She’s 72.

I agreed. Watching this video only served to solidify the shock-and-horror response:

I then followed the link to Danny Glover’s take on the story, where a different, longer video was shown.

That changed my perspective.

From the very beginning, even while she was in the truck, this lady was pulling out the “I’m a 72-year-old woman!” card. She told him that she wasn’t going to sign it, and to go ahead and take her to jail. Then, when he escorted her out of the truck to arrest her, she started swearing and getting into his face, causing both the officer and the woman to be dangerously close to the flow of oncoming traffic along an apparently notoriously dangerous stretch of highway. When she refused to back off, he shoved her away from the traffic. She then started pulling the age card again, yelling about shoving a 72-year-old woman, and tried to get back into the officer’s face as he warned her to back away.

This woman was warned nine times to comply. Nine times. And all nine times, she refused. And the officer warned her he would tase her. Her response? She told him to do it! “I dare you,” she said. And even after she told him to go ahead and do it, he hesitated, and continued to issue warnings before he finally took action.

Does that look like a taser-happy police officer to you? It doesn’t to me. It seems to me that the officer was extremely reluctant to use the taser, and did so to keep himself and the woman safe. As Sgt. Major Gary Griffin points out,

And at that point she tries to walk around him and if she were to continue her path… she would have walked right out into the main oncoming traffic. … She was an adult; she was told nine times to comply; she chose all nine times to disregard the orders of a Texas peace officer.

Interestingly, the video showed an interview with the woman before the dashcam video was released, where she claimed she wasn’t resistant or combative or belligerent. How convenient that she missed the interview where the dashcam footage would have been shown to her.

As was also pointed out by the reporter, Keri Bellacosta, had he not gained control of the woman and she had gotten injured, he could be facing a civil suit for not preventing injury to an individual in custody.

I personally think the shorter video was edited to make it clearly look like a case of a big, mean, taser-happy cop out to get a small, weak grandma who didn’t do anything wrong. Watching the longer video shows that this woman got what she was asking for. Had she simply signed the ticket, this wouldn’t have happened. And if she really could not sign the ticket, had she simply complied with the arrest this wouldn’t have happened. The officer gave her more than enough warnings, and she refused to comply and resisted arrest. Her actions were putting herself and the officer in danger. What other choice did he have?

The press and the woman herself are playing up her age of 72 because it is a handy scapegoat. But just because she is 72 years old, it doesn’t mean she is allowed to speed without receiving a ticket. It doesn’t mean she’s allowed to resist arrest. It doesn’t mean she’s allowed to refuse to comply with a police officer’s orders. And it especially doesn’t mean she’s allowed to potentially put her life and the life of the police officer at risk. I fully support the actions of this police officer, and I’m glad to see that his superiors are standing by him.

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  • James says:

    I live in Austin and this was a big local story before it became a national one. The 72 year old woman in this case was clearly in the wrong. When a police officer tells you to do something you do it, whether you agree with the police officer or not. I think the police officer did the right thing in this situation. Would people rather the officer beat her up with his billy club or fist like they did before tasers? Should he have let her go? The reason I think people are making a big deal out of this is not only because of her age but also because she is female. If it were a 72 year old man people probably wouldn’t care as much. If it were a 27 year old female people would still be “outraged.” The officer is really lucky the woman wasn’t black. If we want police officers to protect us all we can’t put PC handcuffs on them. We have to let them do their jobs and if they abuse their power we have to deal with that in the courts.

  • WayneB says:

    The way this woman acted is typical of the type of behavior that led one police officer to create a Facebook group called, Instead of “Fuck the Police!”, how about you STOP BREAKING THE LAW RETARD.

    Apparently, it has gotten pretty popular.

    Of course, since she was a 72-year-old woman, the officer could have probably wrestled her to the ground without too much trouble, but then he could have caused her broken bones, and would REALLY be in trouble.

    Also, there are a lot of people who seem to think tasers are terrible, and take every chance to attack their use that they can, be it because of something like this, or because some cokehead dies of an overdose, but just happened to get Tasered before the drugs killed him.

  • Larry Sheldon says:

    The place where the officer MIGHT have screwed up is, it seems to me, when she refused to sign the promise to appear (that is what you are signing, not a “ticket”, but a “promise to appear” (i am not a lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that is right.

    When she refused to sign, he should have announced that “I am placing you under arrest” or what ever the official announcement is. When she got belligerent thereafter, he should have called for backup and preserved the scene until the backup arrived.

    I am not a police officer either, so I may be off-base here.

    But I have taken a vow never to to be alone with a female, or with somebody else’s child. Ever.

  • BobV says:

    “Is it ever OK to tase a 72-year-old woman?”

    Well given that Helen Thomas is somewhere in that age group I’d say, yes sometimes.

  • Ironwolf32 says:

    The cops are there to get control of a situation. Sign your ticket and request a hearing. If by signing the ticket you waive a hearing, then let him arrest you. And if he is arresting you, put your arms behind your back and comply. The 72 year old woman should have known better.

    This reminds me of the guy that got tasered in Colorado or Utah and put the police video up on youtube. It caused a huge uproar with the poor cop got death threats from various keyboard warriors. The guy also refused to sign the ticket and officer told him to get out to arrest him. The guy got out but didn’t listen to the cop’s instructions and got tasered.

    I weighed in on that video that I felt the officer was in the right. The moonbats/emotion thinkers/”police brutality” yellers jumped all over me saying: “he was no threat”, “he didn’t deserve it”, “he had no weapon” and “what if it were your son?”. Couldn’t count how many “kill the pigs” comments there were but there were plenty. I responded to each but it just got to be like putting out a forest fire with a squirt gun.

    My guess is that this woman will get some payoff or settlement, butI don’t think she deserves it.

  • Jeff Stone says:

    Only if she is mean to you.

    Oh, and half your size.

    And mean to you

  • Mat says:

    Sure,

    If some 72 year old woman has a gun and she’s waving it around, then I’d tase the wrinkles out of her. Then I’d do it again for good measure. To say that is should never be used is pretty silly.

  • Firehand says:

    I’ll jump all over a cop when I think he acted wrongly(or, in some cases, flat stupidly); I’ll also defend one when he takes the ‘least bad’ choice in dealing with something.

    He does a takedown, or joint lock and breaks bones and/or tears tendons? Not a better choice.

  • GS says:

    Like Firehand, I’m not into the becoming a police officer makes you good line of thinking, but this lady was clearly putting the guy in a no-win situation. He took the path of least resistance.

  • Rob Farrington says:

    I’m a little wary of frail grandmas precisely for the reason that they ARE frail – what could you possibly do to them without feeling like a complete bully afterwards?

    My fiancee’s grandmother uses this to great effect – people are terrified of her, especially when she goes to fast food restaurants. She regularly takes in her own cans of Coke and asks for a refund if a fly lands near her food (this in SC in the middle of summer, when they have the windows open so that people don’t pass out).

    People are reduced to saying ‘Please God, make her go away!’ under their breath. Luckily, I seemed to have escaped her wrath so far…

  • Jarrod says:

    I know I try to tase a 72 year old woman every day…before noon if at all possible.

  • Frank White says:

    “Look, I know old people are dangerous”
    -Cassy

    Pure Gold I tell ya, pure gold!

  • Phil says:

    I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wished for a taser or something during the depths of snowbird season at the local wallyworld in Brooksville Fl. They are a menace. I’ve been cursed at, run over or hit by shopping carts etc etc etc…
    I’m from SC and was stunned that some of the meanest, nastiest, rudest, vulgar, I’m retired so I’m entitled… people I’ve ever met in my life were the retired snowbirds I’ve met while residing here in florida.
    The cop was right…

  • Mark says:

    Uh oh, video tape doctored to elicit sympathy for so-called victim put upon by that big bad cop. Where have we seen that before?

  • Frank White says:

    It’s like Cassy said, old people ARE dangerous! Fortunately, Obama’s healthcare plan will ensure no one lives past the age of 55, and these dangerous old people will never menace us again.

  • jerryT says:

    You’ve got the right perspective on this Cassy.

  • Daniel says:

    The first thing I thought of when reading this was “Rodney King” – is that what you were getting at, Mark?

  • Jeff says:

    Old people farts are dangerous.

  • Big Don says:

    To those who oppose tasers, I pose a simple question:
    Would you rather the police use their other non lethal weapon, the nightstick?
    Those I have talked to have told me that once the Taser is OFF, so is the pain. Tasers cannot break bones. Would you rather have video of the old bat being tossed into the trunk of the police car, or given a resounding SMACK?

  • Tomare Utsu Zo says:

    They are called rules of engagement. Ask the Marine to explain them to you. You only move up the ladder as high as needed to accomplish the mission. In this case, the bitch was old and weak enough to be handled with soft physical restraint (aka, arm bars and holds). Had she been a bigger threat the use of a taser to gain control would have been the appropriate action (supposedly. As far as I am concerned, any situation that requires more then arm bars and holds is probably to dangerous for hard physical action and the next step is (to me) deadly force. To use a taser then is going above and beyond. But to use a taser in this case is way out of line do to the plethora of alternatives available.
    Did she deserve it? Absolutely. Should he as an officer of the peace have gone beyond his role and administered street justice? No.

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