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apparently the personal charms of The One, the fashion icon yet sacrificial first lady, and oprah herself meant nothing to the ioc. chicago eliminated in the first round no less – they’re all raaaaaacists!
as rush says, the obamas were ‘bitchslapped’ in front of the whole world. hmm, hmm, hmm. remember, obama doesn’t like competition – he only likes winning. and michelle? well i’m quite certain she feels very sad for the children. really.
oh to be a fly on the wall of AF1 because you know michelle is throwing stuff.
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update: it didn’t take long for moonbats to blame bush for obama’s epic fail. also see here, here, and here.
get over President Bush already. geeez.
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update 2: someone was asking the cost of obama’s olympic adventure. here you go:
“Taxpayers shelled out probably $1 million or more for the president, his wife and others to fly to Copenhagen and back to woo members of the International Olympic Committee. A 2006 congressional study pegged the cost of flying Air Force One at $56,518 an hour. The Pentagon recently said it cost $100,219 an hour to fly the huge, reconfigured Boeing 747 without Obama aboard…. [P]residential travel requires additional spending, especially for security personnel and equipment. Also, first lady Michelle Obama and some administration officials traveled to Copenhagen at public expense ahead of the president.”
at this point, no one has calculated his carbon footprint.
h/t video from cuffy via dpud
Jane says: No surprise! One more “Mock the Obamas” post.
Kate do you see Micky’s comment above? He never reads your posts. If he had, he would have saw that same thing in your writing. He just comes here to fight liberals. Like Pennie said yesterday, that is all most of your readers come for.
I also doubt his illness story. He said yesterday he was cured. Its only been a few months since his revelation. As a survivor, C is not usually cured that fast.
Bobby says: Thank God somebody finally said NO! to these people. What an epic failure Obama is. His ego has suffered a blow today.
Fred says: You seem happy about losing the Olympics. How is that a pro-America attitude? Or is it different because you f*cken tea baggers just want President Obama to fail at everything even if it means the country loses?
gene says: wanting another country to prosper like this over the USA is almost treasonous. so now you all hate chicago like you hate obama.
So what jane ? I still remained within the facts, as did kate.
Fred, its not an omperitive right now considering the limited benefits.
The Salt Lake winter olympics, after all was said and done only profited 56 million. Thats not a good enough margin to justify the costs involved.
You guys cant have it both ways.
You say you care so much about the world and that America shouldnt be so exceptional ? Well then let Rio have it and stand behind your bull
PenniePan says: Mickey it’s good manners to read the post first before commenting.
Jane yes I was wondering about the timing of Mickey’s cure as well. Mighty fast. Maybe he received a miracle from Barack! They think he thinks he’s the Messiah or something.
Bobby you sound jealous.
Fred yes they want Barack to fail at everything even bringing the Olympics home. They are Right Wingers first, Americans second.
Exactly Gene!
JANE.
“usually” being the definition of your ignorance.
My oncologist says “consider yourself cured”. My radiologist says he sees nothing there anymore. In 3 weeks i’ll have a biopsy done. The specialist performing it says he expects to find nothing but as matter of protocol must do the procedure.
I caught this at stage one, very easy to eliminate in 3 months with the level of aggression needed due to the fact that surgical removal in that area is the least desirable way to go.
I absorbed in 3 months what most do in 6 months and had to because of the type and location.
Anything else ?
Paul says: Maybe our TSA restrictions also scared the IOC away. Can you imagine the nightmare with all those athletes, coaches and trainers, tourists? Besides, I bet they were afraid Tea Baggers would protest.
“Jane yes I was wondering about the timing of Mickey’s cure as well. It would be a shame not to be able to tease him about his disease anymore”.
“Mickey it’s good manners to read the post first before commenting.”
Yeah, like you always comment right on topic, dont you ?
I read the post, I make mistakes, but ironically enough my deductions were exactly the same as Kates, so fcking what ?
What Id really like to see is either one of you make the case for the olympics in Chicago. If Obama couldnt do it I seriously doubt you can so that probably explains your desires to talk about everything else but.
Pretty embarrasing huh ? First round and yer outta here !
“I bet they were afraid Tea Baggers would protest.”
Or get shot in the head by one of the entitlement freaks in Obamas home town
PenniePan says: Stage 1???? Oh so you really milked all of this here on this blog. How pathetic!
Glad to hear your death is not eminent but you are still a big fricken loser. You said they thought stage 2 or 3 and we all got our asses handed to us in emails from Kate practically every other day because of you. What a f*ckhead person you are.
cassiopeia says: I wish President Obama hadn’t gone to personally advocate for the Olympic games. Maybe everything would have turned out the same with Rio getting the nod, but we wouldn’t have been humiliated and mocked.
BikerDan says: Maybe BHO will call for a boycott of the Rio Olympics. He’ll show them!
Scarlett says: So it’s come to this: you conservatives are rooting against America now on the international stage.
Yeah Pennie you moron. What they “thought” and what it was were two different things ! Hows that for a novel thiought process ? Can you process that you idiot?
You got your asses handed to you because you’re a sick distasteful slimy classless bitch idiot who thought no matter what stage it was appropriate to mock.
You’re a fcking hypocrite in every sense of the word in that you find it amusing to relish someones suffering due to their ideological differences. Yet you pretend to be so sympathetic as a liberal.
Even cassie had the class to apologize if she was percieved to be taking your lead.
You dont represent the worst in your party, you represent the worst that humanity has to offer
BikerDan says: No Scarlett. This is about BHO. It’s always about him. If Chicago had gotten the Olympics, you bet he would have taken the credit for it. Since he didn’t bring them home, he has to take the blame. Lighten up.
Now that the Olympics are in Rio, maybe my bride and I will save our pennies and go. I hear they have nice scenery there: gorgeous girls from impanema in non-existent bikinis there…and good boxing.
Steve says: IMO it’s really embarrassing for someone as powerful as the American President (any American President not just Obama) to insert himself into such a small matter as the host city for a future Olympics and then lose so publically like this. This is a big blow to Obama’s image. He is completely disconnected from what is really important for our country.
Patrick says: I’m really glad that Rio got the Olympic Games. That is one fun city! I also think that Chicago is one of the best big city in America. It may have a corrupt political structure, but the city itself is really, really great. Just a thought here.
Cyb says: The articles and comments on this blog illustrate completely my belief that America is only America if it’s an (R) America. Sickening.
Marsha says: It’s Bush’s fault we lost the Olympics.
Jared says: Peter Uuberoth (LA Games) and Mitt Romney (SLC Games) both R’s agreed with President Obama’s decision to go to Copenhagen and said it was “disappointing” we didn’t get the 2016 games.
PenniePan says: Keep it up, losers! You may actually become an even smaller minority in 2010 and 2012 before all is said and done.
LadyHawk says: I feel bad for Chicago, but I have to admit, Rio is a great place!
jane please don’t tattle – its so unbecoming in a grown woman.
pennie its time for your meds now.
i think rio is a great selection too!
“Keep it up, losers! You may actually become an even smaller minority in 2010 and 2012 before all is said and done.”
Not likely.
Its stupid little stunts like this one in Copenhagen that are going to show you all the way out. As it stands the dems are losing their base, Obama is losing his numbers , the majority of the country does not like the direction its headed and if an election were held today most of the dems on the hill would be replaced by conservatives.
Would you like to see the numbers or continue living in la la land ?
Riverwill says: “the obamas were ‘bitchslapped’ in front of the whole world”
You think that’s funny???? Appropriate???? They are our President and First Lady you fukin idiot! You listen to that fat drugger that’s your problem. Did you know they make uppercase keys? Yes they do. Try them. Maybe people would take you and your rightwing blog more seriously. Wait. No they won’t. Never mind bitch.
David says: I like Chicago as much as the next guy. Although I believe that the Olympics usually COSTS money for the cities that host them lately, and I’m glad that the U.S./Chicago “dodged a bullet”, and I’m happy for the Brazilians, I don’t think we should “rub it in”. We’re the “good guys” after all. Let’s put on a classy act. : )
Sam says: Anyone know how much was spent on this whole thing by Obama? I know some is the city of Chicago expenses, I am looking for costs of Air Force 1, Michelle’s separate plane, etc.
lisab says: cnn: “yeah i think this is going to work out just perfectly ….”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuE60mq0r1Q
lisab says: so do you think chewbacca will get a brazillian for the olympics?
Wow. So Micky is going to be OK (congrats Micky) and Pennie is pissed because he won’t be dying anytime soon.
In the meantime, our President and his wife begged for something on the international stage – demeaning their positions all over the world. And did the gambit pay off? No – they were humiliated as was the rest of our country.
While Afghanistan continues to fall apart, Obama travels to Denmark only given General McChrystal 20 minutes on Air Force One.
I’m reminded of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.
lisab says: “I’m reminded of Nero fiddling while Rome burned.”
well actually …
nero was able to get the olympics … and he won six medals …
(really, look it up, he was in the 67 AD games)
gene says: yeah micky likes to use this place as his own personal “look at me!” time. from his beating “cancer” to drugs to food banks, this guy LOVES to talk about himself and how great he is but he’s the first one to accuse obama of the same thing. talk about hypocrisy! Idon’t believe a word micky says.
Jane says: Gene
Micky is a very good example of the hypocrisy of the right in general. He is a VERY NEEDY person who always has to dominate every conversation. He is a right wing low class thug.
Gene, Jane.
Who gives a sht what you think about me ? Do you really think I dont sleep at night because of the sht that runs in your head ? get over yourselves .
The fact is that you two are so fcking stupid you’ve never been able to defend your messiah in any kind of meaningful dialogue.
When its all said and done, thats what really counts, and you both obviously dont
As much as your limited abilities only allow you to come after folks on a personal basis the fact is that your dickhead n chief went to Denmark ignoring national security issues, begging like a groveling fool, spending money we cant afford, after telling the whole world how freeking terrible America is for months and how sorry we are for being who we are he then turns around a wants the whole world to think were so great, deserving and exceptional. Remember, it was you guys who thought America shouldnt see it self in just the way he was presenting us during his begging session. It was you guys who condemned the exceptionalism of our country.
Well you cant have it both ways.
As liberals you should be happy and proud for the people of Rio. If any country on the face of this earth needs good finacial shot in the arm its them. Certainly you want to get along with the whole world and spread wealth to those in need, dont you ? You dont see it that way this time. You know why ?
Because your head is so far up Obamas a$$ you couldnt even follow the ideology set by your own party if your useless lives depended on it. It doesnt matter what Obama does you follow him like idiot lemmings backing anything and every stupid move he makes.
I’m not the one who brings up the idiot sht you guys bring up about me and if I do bring up something about myself its because I’m proud of what I am and live a life where I have nothing to hide. I walk my talk and stand behind my principles unlike the two of you who cant make you fcking minds up what the hell you are.
You just want to see Obama win even if it means bankrupting the country, ruining our kids futures, allowing Chicago to host what would be a disaster, allowing our enemies to kill more of us, allowing the constitution to be ass wipes…
It doesnt matter to you mindless empty robots as long as “THE ONE” get his way.
Truly absolutely pathetic
nmmell08 says: It isn’t Obama’s fault Chicago lost, It was going to happen wether he showed up or not, the IOC has it cliques and wanted to make sure Chcago was not in the finals with Rio. If that happened, Chicago would of likely won over Rio. And what is wrong with Rio, its one of the biggest cities in the economic powerhouse of South America. This bashing of Obama and wishing he fails by this anti-american GOP makes me sick. I know I was not for Bush’s policies but I never wish he failed becasue if he failed, then the Nation failed. If Obama fails b/c of the GOP, then this country is going to be in the worst shape its been since 1814 when the British burned down D.C
Scarlett says: Sheeesh. What a blowhard! Next time how about ignoring them instead of beating everybody up with your own personal, righwing manifesto? What a tender little ego you must have.
New Blog post coming today?
Hey Scarlett.
Thats what I am, get over it. I dont ignor what I consider to be the one single biggest threat to our country besides Obama.
An idiot following with no mind of its own is the one thing thats been behind the downfall of mant civiliations.
I’m a fighter and not one of you limp wristed panties that drop the occassional stupid one liner that you can never back up with anything of substance.
Take your own stinking advice and ignore me if it bugs you so damn much.
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nmmell.
Bushs policies werent destined to fail our country. Obamas are, without a doubt.
nmmell;
“It isn’t Obama’s fault Chicago lost, It was going to happen wether he showed up or not, ”
“In what is widely percieved as a deliberate snub, the IOC rejected Chicago in the first round of decision- making shortly after Obama’s speech. As Axcess News reported, one IOC member was overheard snickering: “there’s no ‘change’ for Mr. Obama here.”
Tom says: NMMELL
The problem is that instead of doing a sales pitch for the Oympics, Obama should be doing a sales pitch on winning in Afghanistan which was something he promised as a candidate.
nmmell08 says: Wow Micky, you just said exactly what and Anti-american GOP would say, you want Obama’s policies to fail. And I went looking for that quote. They are from blogs including “Obamacrisis” that is not credible. And you also supported my point, the IOC has cliques that didn’t want Chicago in. Next time don’t try to make me look like a fool while supporting what I say.
As for Tom, Obama making a pitch is not a bad idea, imagine if we did get Chicago, we would of gotten hundrads of thousands of jobs, not too bad for a econmy that is just recovering from a recession. Yes Afghaqnistan is important but so is our economy
nmmell08 says: Also Micky, I never said Bush’s policies were destined to fail and I don’t think they did, Iraq may still end up being a democracy and stanch ally in the Middle East we need.
Ken says: Look at all the little liberal trolls!! Their so angry about the snub to his holiness “The One” that they’re…………..attacking Micky????
Obama finally got a taste of reality. Not everyone, regardless of the drooling and fawning O-fans like the ones on this site, are enamored with Obama’s very existence.
He thought his smile and his “coolness”, which is how he got elected, would get him the Olympics, and it didn’t work. He’s so arrogant, it was nice to see him come down to earth once or twice.
Also, spare me the “un-American” garbage. Do I want Obama to fail? You bet your ass, because he’s going to tear this country apart. If that makes me an “Un-American GOP”, so be it, considering the source, I take that as a compliment.
nmmell08 says: Just b/c I want this country to succed doesn’t make me a liberal troll. You want to hear something very unliberal you got. If you want this country to fail, you should get the hell out of this coutry, that is bloody treason. To purposly try to bring a country down of your citizenship is treason. This type of things the GOP and talk show wignuts would usually eat up a few years ago if a liberal said he wanted Bush to fail and absolutly destroy the person as a traitor. But since its the GOP is anti-america its all good now. Protesting policies you are against is fine, but asking for a presidency to fail is wrong and that person is rotten to the core
nmmell;
“Also Micky, I never said Bush’s policies were destined to fail and I don’t think they did, Iraq may still end up being a democracy and stanch ally in the Middle East we need.”
True, but you did say that by us wishing for Obamas policies to fail we want the country to fail. This is bullsht. Many citizens from conservative ideologies have not approved of a presidents policies and rightly so, but did not wish for them to succeed as they/we saw them as detrimental or destructve.
I think the sooner his economic policies are seen as failures the quicker we can move on to those policies that do work. Due to the mindless fruits were surrounded by the only way these policies will be seen for the failures they are is when it really happens. And even then not so much because the brainwashing in some in I think irreversable.
I want almost all of Obamas policies to fail. If that paints me as wanting Obama to fail, so be it. The sooner he fails and his a$$ is out on the curb the better for everyone,
Saying and implying that we want the country to fail is a disengenuous juvenile attempt at best.
“Protesting policies you are against is fine, but asking for a presidency to fail is wrong and that person is rotten to the core”
The problem is that I dont see it as a presidency. Its socialist dictatorship
“Next time don’t try to make me look like a fool while supporting what I say.”
You wish.
It was a simple point driven home that as much as you guys think the world thinks his sht dont stink its just not true.
You people blow my mind with your hypocrisy and fair weather positions.
On one hand America should not be the exceptionalist country that we are. We should be ashamed and humbled in the face of all the great things other nations have contributed.
Yet when Obama is stumping for us that doesnt apply ? None of you yet have been ble to explain away this hypocrisy that says we should not want all the attention, take so much credit, be so proud, should be equal to all nations except when it comes to hosting an event that weve clearly already hosted many times.
Sure, I would of liked to see us host the Olympics, but certainly not in Obamas home town where undoubtedly it would be a freaking free for all for his cronies, and not at a time when weve clearly got biger fish to fry. And as I said weve hosted the games many times before so I’m genuinely happy for Rio.
I’m glad he failed, it all worked out for the best
nmmell08 says: You can disaprove, but you shouldn’t say u want him to fail, your missing the key diffrence, HE FAILS, THIS COUNTRY FAILS and we will be worse off. I don’t understand how how people don’t see that. And socialist b/c he wants universal health care? I think Britian and Canada have that and they arn’t socialist. Also if this was a dictatorship, why is his health care plan stuck in CONGRESS. I would love to hear a good explaination for that
“You can disaprove, but you shouldn’t say u want him to fail, your missing the key diffrence, HE FAILS, THIS COUNTRY FAILS and we will be worse off. I don’t understand how how people don’t see that. ”
I believe it was in ther countrys best interest not to host the games in Chicago.
Do you understand that ?
“And socialist b/c he wants universal health care? ”
Yes.
Because the plans hes laid out, many that have come from the house and the senate espouse the basic principles of socialism.
“I think Britian and Canada have that and they arn’t socialist.”
The program is.
” Also if this was a dictatorship, why is his health care plan stuck in CONGRESS. I would love to hear a good explaination for that”
When they go with the nuclear optioin come back and talk to me.
The majority of this country doesnt want his stinking rand of healthcare, fact.
The majority of this country does not want to pay for it, fact.
Yet he keeps trying to shove rendidtions of the same plan down our throat.
The majority of the country would like to see reform in the private sector but these wishes and voices are falling on deaf ears.
Our voices are being ignored all so he can ram the largest transference of wealth this country has ever seen.
Hes dictating that his socialist policies are whats best for us because we just dont know any better.
His policies are those that attack and destroy a large part of Americas capitalist institutions, in this case the insurance industry.
When are you guys going to get it thru your thick skulls that no one wants this sht, never mind have to pay for it ?
Pam says: @Micky do you know what the plans for the Chicago games were going to be? No. Then how can you say it wasn’t good for thw country? Seems to me its because the President involved himself and you hate him so much you didn’t want him “to get” the games. You sound very selfish.
nmmell08 says: Yet 51% of americans WANT Gov’t intervention in health care (http://healthcare.change.org/blog/view/when_healthcare_polls_go_bipolar) so don’t say the country doesn’t want it. Unlike you micky, I bring facts and credible sources to the table. All I’m hearing from you is Right Wing Talk Show bable. You sound like Rush Limbaugh. Also socialism a political theory advocating state ownership of industry (wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn). According to you opinion, we are already socialist becasue you think the take over of anything by government is socialist. You know that Public Education, Public Transportation, Public anything is runned by the government. Obama is not trying to bring industry under the government at all.
Also is it fair that over 40 million people have no insurence? And its going to get worse until private insurences get in control because prices are going to skyrocket until something changes
lisab says: “You can disaprove, but you shouldn’t say u want him to fail, your missing the key diffrence, HE FAILS, THIS COUNTRY FAILS and we will be worse off”
actually that is a fallacy. it comes from the concept of the “Divine Right of Kings” summed up by Louis XIV a.k.a. the sun king as “i am the state”.
obama is not the state.
if obama’s policies are bad for the usa, then if he fails the usa does better.
right now most people think obama’s policies are bad for the state. sooooooo … naturally they want him to fail, and rightly so.
lisab says: to put obama’s policies in perspecttive …
cap and trade barely passed in the dem controlled house 219 to 212. it will likely fail in the senate.
obamacare will likely only get 55 votes in the senate and currently may actually not pass in the house … but with arm twisting i assume pelosi should get something like 220 votes.
the resolution authorizing bush 2 to attack iraq was passed by
77 to 23 in the senate — a whopping 29 dem senators voting to go to war in iraq, including the current sec. of state
and
296-133 in the house … a blowout.
dems could have stopped the war in iraq, however they supported it.
people, and congress, just do not support obama’s policies by anywhere near the same level they supported bthe invasion of iraq.
David says: nmmell08 said, “If Obama fails b/c of the GOP” … fails because of the GOP? Exactly how does that happen??
The DEMS have control of BOTH HOUSES of congress AND also the PRESIDENCY.
If Obama fails (in his policies or as a president) it is because of HIMSELF and/or HIS PARTY – the DEMS. Not the GOP. Sheesh.
Also,
nmmell08 said, “If you want this country to fail, you should get the hell out of this country, that is bloody treason. ” …hey, buddy, no one on this board wants the COUNTRY to fail, as far as I can see.
And you’re right, if there is someone that wants the country to fail – they would be UNamerican. BUT… it’s Obama’s terrible and unamerican POLICIES that we want to see NOT put into place.
lisab says: obama is not a king
to work against his policies is not treason
his policies are less popular than the invasion bof iraq … by a wide margin, and yet the dems always complain about that. the iraq war was not forced on them …
they actively supported and voted for it
nmmell;
“Yet 51% of americans WANT Gov’t intervention in health care ”
From Rasmussen;
“Despite the majority’s support for reforming the health care system, just 41% of voters favor the comprehensive plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats, the lowest level of support yet measured. Fifty-six percent (56%) are opposed to the plan. ”
I can say all day long the country doesnt want it for the simple fact that the majority of “RELIABLE” polls reflect that truth.
“:I bring facts and credible sources to the table. All I’m hearing from you is Right Wing Talk Show bable. ”
Bullsht, you pulled that outta yer butt and just made it up because the facts I bring represent what I said earlier. Your the one saying my points are nothing but right wing babble when actually they are the sentiments of the majority.
Heres another example of you pulling sht outchera$$ thats not true.
“According to you opinion, we are already socialist becasue you think the take over of anything by government is socialist.”
I never said any such thing, did I ? What I said was that his “policies” were socialist and hes dictating them to us.
“You know that Public Education, Public Transportation, Public anything is runned by the government. Obama is not trying to bring industry under the government at all.”
All you mention are systems that support a basic infrastructure. They are not socialist in that Obama is taking wealth from a large majoriity to give to a small few who think they deserve it.
And yes, Obama is trying his best to bring industry under control. Ask the car companies, the banks and the unions.
Please , you’re not the only one who knows whats going on just because you have a perspective.
“Also is it fair that over 40 million people have no insurence? And its going to get worse until private insurences get in control because prices are going to skyrocket until something changes”
Is it fair that you lie ? Its 37 million, not 40.
Second of all about 10 million of that number are not eligible, another 10 million dont even want insurance even though they can afford it. Toss that number, no one uses it anymore for the simple fact that its a distortion of the truth.
If you’re so worried about private insurance then you should be stumping for interstate competition, TORT reform, and ridding the industry of frivilous lawsuits.
Theres not one dept besides the military the fed operates that runs whithin its budget or half as good as any other similar service offered in the private sector and you morons want to let the fed operate healthcare on a volume of 1/7 the countrys economy ? You’re nuts, and destined for failure.
I dont need your links to define socialism for me buddy. It goes alot further than just state ownership of industry. It goes to a total invasion of personal rights and private property.
“You sound like Rush Limbaugh. ”
Thankyou.
PenniePan says: There you go again Micky. Talking out your ass and wrong as usual. Even when someone like NMMELL hands your lying ass back with a bow on it, you sputter and bully. You are a disgusting prick.
lisab says: are you saying he is uncircumcized?
actually …
how do you know?
Pennie.
Would you care to refute my points/facts ?
No.
As a matter of fact I’ll bet the next thing on your pathetic little mind is to attack me personally.
You’re delusional. Please show me where anyone handed me anything. C’mon baby, show me where I’m wrong. You cant and you wont because your a mindless little looser
“Yet 51% of americans WANT Gov’t intervention in health care ”
His point is a disnegenuous as you are. Of course the people want the government to intervene as in applying some sort of regulations. But he does not prove that the people want government “RUN” healthcare. Nor does he prove that the majority wants to pay for your healthcare. Would you care to try ?
PenniePan says: Micky is Psycho.
Look at how irrationally angry he gets! Not to mention he needed to refute me in 25 different ways in the same post!
nmmell08 says: Look Micky, I’m not going to argue with you anymore b/c I’m slightly liberal in your terms and in my terms your a counter revolutionary (Someone who wants the policies to go back in time). Your not going to convince me on anything and I’m not convince you of anything. Just one last peice of advice. If Obama policies fails, Al-Quada will attack again b/c Afgahnistain and Pakistain will be under the control of Taliban. Al-quada will attack with not planes but NUKES. MILLIONS of people will die, likely in the NYC region (Where I’m from). So I hope for dear God he doesn’t fail b/c my friends and family will die
nmmell08 says: “71% of the representative public supports the public option if it provides health insurance for those who don’t have it.” Yeah that sounds like a resounding YES
lisab says: tracking on health care is something that is done by rightpundits.com
here are the numbers
Healthcare Reform Plan (Overall)
Time Span : Strongly / Somewhat / Somewhat / Strongly / Not Sure
Time Span : ..Favor.. / ..Favor.. / ..Oppose.. / Oppose / Not Sure
Sep 08 – 09 : 27.08% / 16.74% / 11.85% / 41.31% / 3.02%
Sep 09 – 10 : 29.60% / 16.17% / 11.68% / 39.16% / 3.39%
Sep 10 – 11 : 31.21% / 15.92% / 10.32% / 38.59% / 3.96%
Sep 11 – 12 : 30.22% / 17.85% / 8.16% / 40.35% / 3.42%
Sep 12 – 13 : 28.29% / 22.76% / 8.28% / 38.14% / 2.53%
Sep 13 – 14 : 23.48% / 21.65% / 10.67% / 40.96% / 3.24%
Sep 14 – 15 : 22.53% / 19.46% / 10.82% / 44.24% / 2.95%
Sep 15 – 16 : 25.23% / 19.43% / 09.85% / 43.19% / 2.29%
Sep 24 – 25 : 23.23% / 18.28% / 12.74% / 43.08% / 2.67%
almost twice as many people strongly oppose obamacare as are in favor of it
lisab says: since about 75% of democrats favor obamacare, and only 23% of the total population support obamacare … the numbers show that obamacare can not be passed presently without huge compromises on the part of the dems or huge consequences.
thus the difficulty pelosi and reid are having getting the votes
at this rate pelosi will lose her speakership
lisab says: oh … here is the support for DEMS ONLY
Time Span : Strongly / Somewhat / Somewhat / Strongly / Not Sure
Time Span : ..Favor.. / ..Favor.. / ..Oppose.. / Oppose / Not Sure
Sep 08 – 09 : 44.12% / 27.89% / 9.15% / 15.92% / 2.92%
Sep 09 – 10 : 50.76% / 28.74% / 8.49% / 9.30% / 2.71%
Sep 10 – 11 : 58.51% / 25.12% / 5.67% / 8.91% / 1.79%
Sep 11 – 12 : 58.47% / 25.96% / 2.99% / 10.32% / 2.26%
Sep 12 – 13 : 48.40% / 33.85% / 5.52% / 10.33% / 1.90%
Sep 13 – 14 : 41.14% / 32.17% / 7.39% / 17.43% / 1.87%
Sep 14 – 15 : 41.87% / 31.64% / 6.31% / 17.02% / 3.16%
Sep 15 – 16 : 49.81% / 32.56% / 4.02% / 10.84% / 2.78%
Sep 24 – 25 : 46.74% / 28.36% / 7.64% / 13.16% / 4.10%
lisab says: again courtesy of the poster frank at rightpundits
Ken says: “You can disaprove, but you shouldn’t say u want him to fail, your missing the key diffrence, HE FAILS, THIS COUNTRY FAILS”
Only in your ignorant, Obama colored glasses, world. If Obama fails, this country wins, BIG TIME. Contrary to what you have been babbling about, Obama has NO interest in winning in Afghanistan, nor does he care about saving the economy, nor does he care about poor people. Obama is interested in one thing, his own power.
Grow up.
Ken says: “MILLIONS of people will die, likely in the NYC region (Where I’m from). So I hope for dear God he doesn’t fail b/c my friends and family will die”
Wasn’t that called “fearmongering” under Bush?!?!
What a difference an Obama makes!!!
Ken says: “You are a disgusting prick.”
Very mature. I finally figured out why Pennie is so much in favor of the public health care option. No doubt, it will include free mental health treatments, something Pennie desperately needs.
nmmell;
“71% of the representative public supports the public option if it provides health insurance for those who don’t have it.” Yeah that sounds like a resounding YES”
Uh, excuse me, do you mind telling me where you got those numbers from ?
And what is considered the “representative public” ?
If someone says that 71% of anyone support a public option, doesn’t that set off anyone’s bullsht meter?
First you try to bolster your argument with numbers that come from a healthcare “BLOG” link that doesn’t work and then you feed me numbers that for now seem to of been pulled out of your ass.
At least make your case with some reputable reliable polls such as I did
“Look Micky, I’m not going to argue with you anymore b/c I’m slightly liberal in your terms and in my terms your a counter revolutionary (Someone who wants the policies to go back in time).”
That’s because there’s really no argument about it. My numbers and sources along with Lisabs numbers poke a big gaping hole in anything you’ve brought to the table.
As far as calling me a counter revolutionary that sounds rather like a self defeating oxymoron to me.
You are by no means a revolution that I’m countering. You’re just a bunch of selfish greedy people who want what they think will be free and could care less about the collateral damage down the road.
That’s no revolution, that’s just a continuance of the idiocy, self centeredness and narcissism we saw in the 60’s.
I’m just an American who wants to see what works kept in place and improved upon so that everyone can have access to it and have even brought suggestions as to how to achieve that. That’s far more than anything you’ve contributed so far which has just been “gimme, gimme, gimme”.
We know medicare and Medicaid are failing due to government dereliction/corruption, we know that at least in Hawaii and Washington (maybe Oregon, I forget) these types of public options were tried and failed, went broke in no time due the same problems that hit medicare and Medicaid and undoubtedly will hit the public option.
You should be wishing for the fed to regulate the system in place instead of depending on the government with its record of failure in these dept’s to be of any security for your family. That’s my advice to you.
Can you name me at least one govt operated service that functions better than any similar service the private sector offers ?
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” If Obama policies fails, Al-Quada will attack again b/c Afghanistan and Pakistain will be under the control of Taliban. Al-quada will attack with not planes but NUKES. MILLIONS of people will die, likely in the NYC region (Where I’m from). So I hope for dear God he doesn’t fail b/c my friends and family will die”
I never said I wanted him to fail in the security of our nation, did I ?
I said I did not support “MOST” of his policies.
Nice try bub
But to address that issue I do hope his policies of appeasement and apology for our actions does fail because the policy he should be issuing that I would support is one that says ” if you don’t knock your fcking sht off were going to kick your ass from here to never never land.
That’s not what he’s doing, is he ? No, just today we lost another 8 guys to 2 Taliban because the fckin idiot cant make up his mind whether or not to send additional troops.
You’d better pray he comes up with some policies in the middle east that “ARE” worth supporting buddy or yeah, were all going to be very very sorry.
So I guess it suffices to say that the sooner he fails and his ass is out on the curb the quicker our troops can get the help they need and thereby insuring the safety of your family and mine. The only problem is that the succession is just as bad as he is. If he goes we get Biden, if Biden goes we get Pelosi !? Jeez, that’s about as freeking scary a thought as I’ve had for a long time.
Goose bumps man, goose bumps
lisab says: actually biden as president might be a hoot
David says: nmmell08 said, ”If Obama policies fails, Al-Quada will attack again b/c Afghanistan and Pakistain will be under the control of Taliban.”
Dude, Obama doesn’t even “have a policy” on Afghanistan. He’s just floating around saying, “let me think about it”. Hell, he had a better policy when he was a friggin’ candidate. At least THEN he said that he’d send more troops to WIN that conflict. Now that he’s in, he’s just taking up space.
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